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David Hollandsworth
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From: Roanoke, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2013

posted July 05, 2013 06:44 PM

OK, I have film on some 7" 8mm reels and they will not slide onto the supply spindle! Are they supposed to be that tight or am I missing something? Thanks...

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted July 05, 2013 07:03 PM

Hi Dave

Can you post a couple of photos?

PatD [Wink]

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David Hollandsworth
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From: Roanoke, VA, USA
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posted July 05, 2013 07:21 PM

My wife went out of town with the camera. All I can say is that these metal reels are very, very close to fitting but I cannot get them to go completely on the spindle unless I use brute force... and if I do I'm afraid I'll break the spindle trying to take them off later. Odd... This link shows a reel exactly like the ones I have.

http://www.terrylagler.com/8mm/viewitem.php?productid=53

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Joe Taffis
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posted July 05, 2013 09:02 PM

Hi David, The reels in the link you gave are regular/standard 8mm. You are trying to put them on a regular 8mm machine, right?

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Joe Taffis

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David Hollandsworth
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posted July 05, 2013 09:18 PM

I assume so. This is a Bell & Howell combo regular/Super projector. The take up reel spindle is larger and the supply smaller. But these reels just don't quite slide on.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted July 06, 2013 03:30 AM

Dual gauge projectors usually have a supply spindle to accept Regular/Standard 8 spools. For Super 8 a slip-on adaptor is supplied.

Check the spindle to see if it has an adaptor which should just pull off to reveal the smaller spindle.

As you say, the projectors only have a Super 8 take-up spindle, so Super 8 spools must be used for take-up regardless of the fact that the film could be either type.

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Maurice

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John Davis
Master Film Handler

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From: Dunfermline, Fife, UK
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posted July 06, 2013 04:25 AM

The way David is describing it sounds like a projector correctly set to take a standard 8 reel but the reel is just too tight.
I have encountered this in the past with metal reels and plastic (presumably more modern) spindles - often the plastic feed spindle is the type designed to accept standard 8 and super 8 without changing parts (favoured by Bauer and Silma).
Rather than forcing the reel on, I would suggest re-spooling the film onto a spare reel using an editor

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Maurice Leakey
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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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posted July 06, 2013 05:29 AM

John may be right. The standard/regular 8 spool shown is metal so I suppose a gentle bit of filing may do the trick.

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Maurice

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David Hollandsworth
Junior
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From: Roanoke, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2013

posted July 06, 2013 07:32 AM

I definitely have to use an adapter when mounting a super 8 reel on the supply side. So... I think the filing idea is what I'll have to do on these 4 reels. Thanks everyone! I may get to watch a film yet! [Smile]