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Topic: Making text in-camera on 8mm for movie title
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Matthew Smith
Junior
Posts: 20
From: Luton, England
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 22, 2013 05:09 AM
Dominique De Bast : I have this toy 8mm projector which I cannot use which I thought about using its lens, but I know very little about the science of how lens optics work, so I have no idea if I could possibly use it to improvise a close up lens, but I may try once I've used up my first film.
Steve Klare: thanks for the details. Like Robert said though unfortunately I cannot focus so near, though it could work if I had a very large printer. Though since films are old fashioned technology I would like to keep it as low-tech as possible, using print outs or lcd screens for the title would seem wrong somehow. If I can I plan to test some magnifying glass lenses I have lying around to see if I can diy a close up/portrait lens though. You got an extremely sharp image though.
Edit: I have now seen close up lenses on ebay, the one says "to fit Lens Mounts 22- 25mm" and the other "to fit lens mounts 22.5 – 25.5mm" - the diameter of the thread on my camera's lens is about 23mm, Though it says these are push on so they would not be threaded, if they fit well then I could manually attach them somehow when using them, I wonder.
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Robert Crewdson
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1031
From: UK
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 22, 2013 05:48 AM
Matthew, if you can reduce the focus to half (1 foot) that would probably be OK. I used to use close up filters on my 35mm SLR for copying photos, etc, but focussing was critical. My Super 8 camera, which I don't use now, focuses down to 2 inches.
I once bought a 2nd hand Standard 8 camera which turned out to be faulty, but I wanted to try my hand at single frame trickery. I shot a roll of Kodachrome and the colour seemed better than my Super 8 camera, must have been something to do with the inbuilt orange filter. I have a Bolex B8SL, boxed, which I bought about 4 or 5 years ago, and put a B&W film inside and never got around to using it. Need to do it while the weather is still reasonable, and hope the film is OK.
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Steve Klare
Film Guy
Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 23, 2013 01:12 PM
What you start to run into when you print as small as I did is even with a laser you are running up against the resolution of the printer. (-and this was to cover a 35mm frame, never mind 8mm.)
The print gets a little odd looking: corners become rounded and lines aren't uniformly thick. Looking at it with the naked eye it looks fine, but then you blow it up a few thousand times and it's not so good!
How I fixed this on the one film I did is describe it as "the natural outcome of the artistic process" and swear to myself never to do that again!
Titling is about the least rewarding part of making a film, the lights are hot, the opportunities to mess up are abundant and it's genuine work
The best you can say for it is what doesn't work out at least you can try again!
Shooting film is much more fun! All you need to do to prove this is look at the roughly 5 films I have unfinished right now, some of 'em at least 5 years old too.
[ August 23, 2013, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: Steve Klare ]
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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...
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