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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003

posted October 15, 2013 03:30 AM

Gold or True Grit, Both Iver Film Services and Marketing advertised copies of these 2 titles, and I can honestly say in all the years I've been collecting (1978) to this day, I have never seen a F/L print of either title. Does anyone own a copy?

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Luis Caramelo
Master Film Handler

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From: Funchal
Registered: Feb 2011

posted October 15, 2013 06:35 AM

hi!dear friend,as far i know the full lenghts released by markting film were only permited only in usa and canada ,about true grit i,m in the same position you are i never saw a full lenght,but does existe that,s for sure,the film gold i only know the version of iver in 2x400ft scope,inever heard there,s also the full leght...
i belive that someone as the full leght even out of this forum
maybe it will show up some day

regards:
luis caramelo

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Pasquale DAlessio
Film God

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From: Bristol,RI, USA
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posted October 15, 2013 08:27 AM

If your talking about Gold with Roger Moore. I have a 600' version of it by IFS. I'm assuming it's actually the 2x400' version on one reel. Still has great color and sound. Not for sale though.

PatD

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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003

posted October 15, 2013 10:08 AM

Luis,

you're wrong, many of the Marketing F/L prints were sold outside the U.S.A. and Canada, I bought many years ago Barbarella F/L and The Longest Yard (The Mean Machine).

Pat, you're right about the 2x400' (600') of Gold, but it was also advertised in the U.K. as having a F/L print, and supposedly in Scope too!

I wonder if they did ever appear, of course it could be master material, but I've had both Gold & True Grit digests many times, and the master used for those were excellent, so it is a head scratcher, they were definatley advertised as available, but has anyone got a print?

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted October 15, 2013 12:32 PM

I'd love to find a full length scope print of "Shout At The Devil". I hear that they did exist, but only as film library prints.

Still, no doubt, some lucky son of a gun probably has one out there!

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012

posted October 15, 2013 02:27 PM

Correct about them selling features not just in USA & Canada. I bought at least two direct from them in New York after joining 'Marketing Film Club' "Murder On The Orient Express" was one I bought. All the features I have came in a plain box with just 'Marketing Films' printed all over the box, and a sticky label with the title.

The box must have been a standard size to fit all the features, mine had crumpled newspaper to fill the space.

Derann also sold the features too.

Osi. I have just bought a copy of "Gold" 2x400ft but missed "Shout At the Devil" This I have in 16mm, but its a mix of scope and flat.

I would like to have all three of the films mentioned here.

I remember seeing "Gold" four times at the Barnsley Odeon in the days when you could just sit there all day. It was shown for two weeks.

"Shout At The Devil" seems to be one of those films that gets cut and messed with.

Iver released trailers to both these film on 200ft reels. They did make a good digest of both films. Action packed slam bang action.

Did anyone ever visit Iver? I went when I took my GS1200 for a service at CZ Scientific which was not too far away.

What a thrill to drive through the famous gatehouse and say we were visiting Iver Films driving past the mansion house on the left and past all the old props lying around.

They were located at the time we went in a portacabin in what seemed like deep in Pinewood. I bought "The Legend Of Frenchie King" from sales executive Wendy Moorhen.

I do believe at one time they were going to start a film library.

Would 'Marketing Films' be the first to issue titles on polyester stock?

Getting nostalgic for the old days again.

Here's a link to Iver Film Services website.

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Mark Williams
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From: West Sussex
Registered: Mar 2007

posted October 15, 2013 03:04 PM

Ralph Gill use to have a 5 x 400ft flat print of Gold in the PM Films rental library in Beaconsfield its the only one I have ever seen.

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David Ollerearnshaw
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012

posted October 15, 2013 03:36 PM

Wonder who bought that when they closed? The old adverts for Iver did say that the features were flat.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012

posted October 17, 2013 01:49 PM

Looked at the Marketing Films catalogue 80/81 the only titles that were USA & Canada only were:
Murder On The Orient Express
Death On The Nile
King Kong
The above were EMI in the UK. Not Paramount
Emmanuel Joys Of A Woman (The digest was from Columbia)
Death Wish This is Paramount

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David Skillern
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: South Wales
Registered: Apr 2006

posted October 24, 2013 04:00 AM

Hi all,

with reference to Barry's original question - I do remember an advert in Movie Maker from the early 80's - Starrwood Films which I believe were based in St Albans - were offering True Grit for rental - that's what made me originally believe that copies were available in the uk. I have been after a full length print of this film for at least 15 years - I've got the 3x400ft marketing release - which is a great substitute - but I would love to own the full print that marketing released.

David

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted October 25, 2013 01:10 PM

From what I remember, however, Marketing Films, for some odd reason, printed the 3X400ft digests of True Grit" ect. on good film stock that still looks great today, but the full length prints tended to be on fadey Eastman.

War of the Worlds is a print like that which, while the 3X400ft prints look absolutely stellar (as a general rule), the full feature is Eastman fadey!

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