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Jason Brummett
Junior
Posts: 10
From: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Registered: Nov 2012

posted April 24, 2016 04:43 PM

Hello, All.

I need to get another projector, and I am considering the following:

GAF 2000S
Bell & Howell Filmosonic 1744
Bell & Howell Filmosonic 600Z

Are any of these projectors good? If so, which one would be most recommended? I would appreciate some input.

Thanks!

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted April 24, 2016 06:15 PM

Why these,...specifically?? [Confused]

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Jason Brummett
Junior
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From: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Registered: Nov 2012

posted April 24, 2016 08:21 PM

They're for sale on eBay.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted April 25, 2016 05:47 AM

Jason
Regrettably, none of the three mentioned are projectors known to collectors in the U.K.
However, I suggest you wait until a decent Elmo ST1200 makes an appearance on US eBay.

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted April 25, 2016 07:16 AM

Hmmmm!

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Barry Fritz
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Burnsville, MN, USA
Registered: Dec 2009

posted April 25, 2016 11:48 AM

What do you plan on using the projector for? Viewing old family films? Converting films to digital? Viewing feature films? Do you plan on collecting films? Where will the films be shown? In your home or a largrer venue?

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 25, 2016 12:21 PM

Both of the Bell and Howells use the discontinued lamp DJL.

You can still find 'em:

Average Rated Life: 15 Hours

Bust out retail: $62.99 Each

(That's over 4 bucks an hour! I'd be a little wary here.)

You can retrofit, or just find some other machine and not need to.

I like my running-around machines to use lamps like EFP and EFR, they're so common you almost expect to get one free when you buy a tank of gas!

The GAF uses a bulb that is still in production, and that's a plus. The brand name has a reputation it doesn't completely deserve. GAF is that company that your Aunt bought her 126 camera from because it was cheap and easy to use. However, a lot of their movie equipment came from Chinon and it was actually pretty decent. My first movie camera was a Chinon/GAF and it was a great camera which served me very well for years.

-so if the choice was only among these: GAF by a mile.

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Will Trenfield
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, UK
Registered: Mar 2016

posted April 25, 2016 06:53 PM

Jason, at least two of the projectors you mention are super 8 projectors with sound. As said, the GAF would seem to be the best one of the three on offer. It uses a 150 watt lamp off a 120 volt supply if you want to price one up. It dates from 1974. Buying anything on eBay is a gamble as you are relying on the seller's description with most having no knowledge of cine projectors. The first one I bought was described as working when there was no drive belt. "Working but not tested with film" is often seen.A good site for reference is www.van-eck.net

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 25, 2016 08:17 PM

I have a GAF 3000 that is 100% working and tested with film. All functions except record were tested. Here is the link:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/182098514451
It has a nice bright picture and loud clear sound. It's a step up from the 2000.

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Jason Brummett
Junior
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From: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Registered: Nov 2012

posted April 25, 2016 08:18 PM

Thanks for your responses, everyone. I think I will pass on these and keep looking.

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted April 25, 2016 08:35 PM

Yeah I'm late to the discussion but I would also recommend the GAF....I have the 3100S and I use it for transfers and have had no problems. Alan, you have a very nice package for sale on that link.

Bill [Smile]

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 25, 2016 09:21 PM

Thanks Bill! Yes the GAF's are really underrated projectors. They have a sturdy robust build quality and very nice image and sound. Its always about priorities in terms of what you are looking for in a machine. This is a straight ahead no fuss machine. It can sit for years and years and then turn it on and boom. Your ready to watch movies again!
Maybe one day I will start a Super 8 projector museum!

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted April 26, 2016 11:42 AM

Honestly Jason, unless you absolutely have you're heart set on these three you listed (nolstalgia from the past), I would personally suggest ou get a different make and model, as these projectors that you mentioned are really not among the best for film, and a really good one, even a high end model of a EUMIG or an ELMO will sometimes be on sale, in good working condition for a decent low price ...

So, my personal advice is, wait on the best.

Actually, to mention it, I'm on the lookout for a decent EUMIG 938 stereo, personally. [Smile]

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted April 26, 2016 04:39 PM

Probably the best they ever made in my opinion Osi!

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