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Topic: Wanted: Tom & Jerry
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Winbert Hutahaean
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Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 25, 2009 07:29 PM
Christian,
Tom & Jerry series are such repeatable titles. I am trying to complete all TJ series.
If you have an Ebay ID, try to locate them from Ebay.co.uk as they always come and go. However I notice that your wish list titles above are somewhat a bit rare.
The most often titles to be on Ebay are:
1. Tom & Jerry - The Truce Hurts (Walton, 200' Super 8mm, colour, sound)
2. Tom & Jerry - Posse Cat (Walton, 200' Super 8mm, colour, sound)
3. Tom & Jerry - Cat Fishing (Walton, 200' Super 8mm, colour, sound)
4. Tom & Jerry - Cat Napping (Walton, 200' Super 8mm, colour, sound)
5. Tom & Jerry "and the Goldfish" (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
6. Tom & Jerry "Mouse comes to dinner” (Walton, 200", super 8mm, Sound, Color)
7. Tom & Jerry "Dr Jeckyl & Hyde" (Walton, super 8mm, 200" Sound, Color)
8. Tom and jerry "in Two mouseketeers" (Walton, 200", super 8mm, Sound, Color)
9. TOM & JERRY "Cruise Cat" (Walton, Super 8mm, Colour, Sound, 200")
10. TOM & JERRY: MOUSE TROUBLE (Walton, Super 8mm, 200" Clr & Snd)
11. Tom And Jerry – Jerry & Jumbo (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
12. Tom And Jerry – Tennis Chumps (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
13. Tom And Jerry – Cueball Cat (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
14. Tom And Jerry – His Mouse Friday (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
15. Tom And Jerry – Dr Jekyll and Mr Mouse (Walton, Super 8mm, 200, Col, Sound)
They are usually around GBP 2-7/each. The rarer titles like your list above are ranging from GBP 5 - 12.
Try to buy only Walton release as they usually on AGFA or Fuji, but if you are unlucky one you can also get on Kodak. Those from Derann (UK) will be on AGFA or LPP and the price will be GBP 7-15 (on Derann 2nd hand list usually it is priced GBP11).
Avoid to buy those released by MGM (from USA), most likely they are on Kodak and have faded by now (although there are a few on AGFA too).
JM (member of this forum) say that TJs from French companies (Film Office) are always good colors, but I didn't have one.
cheers,
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Winbert
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted October 31, 2009 06:57 PM
Please keep in mind that you'll want to make sure that you buy either Derann prints of these titles OR the original MGM issues of these cartoons, (though some of MGM issues have fade problems).
The reason why you won't want to select out the Walton prints, is that, though they tended to use better non fade stocks, they also EDITED the cartoons. Sometimes it would only be one short gag, or a part of the gag. In other cases, it'll be a whole sequence.
An example of this is in the cartoon, "Johann Mouse". In the original cartoon, Tom goes through a number of notes, page by page, in order to learn how to play. In the Walton version, they cut out a number of the page by page note playing shots, giving you a shorter version of the cartoon and therefore saving a little on print costs ...
... but the viewer leaves cheated, especially if they were expecting certian things to happen.
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted October 31, 2009 10:24 PM
Gian ...
Unfortunately, this is one of the cartoons that I do not own from either company.
By the way, my personal pick for the top Tom and Jerry release?
"Heavenly Puss"
I am still stunned by just how rich and saturated the colors are on this Derann print. You don't expect that rich of a range on most older cartoons, not even in the Disney releases, but that Heavenly Puss is an amazing exception. Pick it up if you have the chance!
I also heartily encourage any serious collector to round up a number of the original cineavision prints of the Tom and Jerry cartoons. The later cartoons, in scope, from this series are lackluster, but the earlier scope releases are quite good. Most of these Cineavision cartoon have held up in color quality quite well and are quite sharp to boot. I'll make a list if anyone is interested.
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 01, 2009 08:11 AM
Your right, the Chuck Jones Tom & Jerry's are quite rare. I forget the name of the other one, but I do have "Purr Chance to Dream" which was also the very last Tom & Jerry cartoon short to be released to the movie theaters. It does have some slightly edited credits to it, and the cartoon only runs about five and a half minutes I believe, but it was nice to sewe that even in 1968, Chuck Jones was about the only one releasing fully animated cartoons that were still funny. The Depathe-Freleng cartoons, (Pink Panther/Inspectors) were already a lost cause and sadly, Walter lantz's cartoons by then, didn't look any different than what was produced for TV.
Also, "Purr Chance to Dream" was printed on a good stock, so you should luck out the first time when tracking it down.
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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