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Topic: Offers on Optical prints?
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted January 18, 2013 01:22 PM
We will never know all the titles that were actually released in optical sound super 8, (and believe it or not, even a few standard 8mm optical sound features, one of which was "Futureworld") ...
... as so many were immediately destroyed, by order of the studios. Those that survive are quite amazing at times. My two really big finds on optical super 8 are the two animated features ...
A Boy Nmaed Charlie Brown
Snoopy Come Home
What fascinates about these two prints is that they do not have a single bit of fade to them, and they were printed in 1969 and the other in 1972. I believe that the reason that they have held up so well is that they were not done by the same film lab that did the MGM titles on optical super 8 (which all have varying states of fade). Those two features were done by "Film Cinema Centers" (I think, the same company that also had a release contract with John Waynes company, "Batjac Productions").
Now, it has actually been proved that Technicolor did release some Super 8 technicolor prints (and not just eastman color prints in technicolor cartridges, which was the general rule), as someone on this very forum had the article (from the Technicolor company) that actually stated that they were printing some technicolor super 8, and Technicolor was still actually in production at that time (the last actual film being shot with Technicolor cameras and with technicolor film being "The Godfather" in 1972) ...
so there is a possibility that these two prints might well be technicolor. I know that 16MM prints tended to have "IB tech" printed in the sprocket area, but these two animated films have no writing at all in the sprocket area, so it's a "reel" mystery!
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 19, 2013 04:46 PM
Regarding CHCs list Vidar, they are as up to date as any you'll sub
too, his listing comes out regularly,but with few changes.As for
opt. prints, the dealers might have some on the shelves still, as
they believe that there isn't a market for them.I know when I
had a couple of good titles for sale "PALE RIDER" & "CITY HEAT",
as I had duplicate copies of both, they were not very enthusiastic,
but got a good price from Buckingham films.The dealers feel that
opt snd projectors are not commonplace, therefore neither are
the prints.Tony might have some at Buckingham,or Ian at Perry's.
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Elyas Tesfaye
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 520
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 22, 2013 01:09 PM
Hey Vidar,
thank you very much for your quick response, as always, good sir! I appreciate the kind words and did have a great holiday season and hope you did as well. As for the screen shots (it does have some fade but I don't think it's bad. Your opinion is the one tht matters, however ), I will be sure to send you some this evening and seeing as you are my number one client, I can let it for $50, sir ![[Wink]](wink.gif) ! I'll e-mail you the pix late this evening and talk soon ![[Smile]](smile.gif) !!!
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John Hermes
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 139
From: La Mesa, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 2008
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posted January 22, 2013 10:35 PM
"Now, it has actually been proved that Technicolor did release some Super 8 technicolor prints (and not just eastman color prints in technicolor cartridges, which was the general rule), as someone on this very forum had the article (from the Technicolor company) that actually stated that they were printing some technicolor super 8, and Technicolor was still actually in production at that time (the last actual film being shot with Technicolor cameras and with technicolor film being "The Godfather" in 1972)...so there is a possibility that these two prints might well be technicolor. I know that 16MM prints tended to have "IB tech" printed in the sprocket area, but these two animated films have no writing at all in the sprocket area, so it's a "reel" mystery!"
The last 35mm film printed in IB Tech in the U.S. was "Godfather, Part 2". It was not shot with a three-strip Technicolor camera. It was derived from an Eastman color negative and printed in dye transfer, the same as other Tech films since the mid-1950s. The last film shot with a three-strip camera was "Foxfire" in 1955. U.S. 16mm Technicolor prints did not have "Technicolor" printed anywhere on them, they had no ID on them at all. 35mm Technicolor prints had the standard Eastman info in the sprocket area since they were printed on Eastman blank stock. I had many IB prints in 16mm and 35mm but have never seen one in the 8mm guage.
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