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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted May 23, 2007 05:15 PM
Louis,
I agree with Graham,
the Eiki Slimline 3585 autothread
(not slotload) is a fine machine.
Graham:
The Eiki Slimline only runs at
24 fps. The true silent modification
was available by Eiki, but I was
told that these parts are not
available from the company any longer.
(If you are so interested, there may
be someone down your way that might
have more information on this.)
So the machine would perform at
either sound or silent speed and
does not have the facility to
switch from one to the other.
But about any available parts, is not to imply
these they might be sitting somewhere
on someones shelf unused.
On another note, I don't own a 16mm ELMO,
but I think that the weakness with this
machine was an issue with the take-up gear.
If I'm not mistaken, when Kodak offered the unit as
the CT 1000, they remedied this problem.
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Isn't it great that we can all communicate about this great
hobby that we love!
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Ian John
Film Handler
Posts: 54
From: South Wales United Kingdom
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted May 26, 2007 07:55 PM
Just a reply to Graham Sinden's post. Graham- I have a number of Eiki models, and one of them is the "Brown cased" Slim-Line SNT-1. Just for your information, there is a "Lamp Brightness" change switch on this model, you will have to open the lamphouse cover by pulling it down towards you,and you will find the switch on the back wall of the lamphouse. The switch is marked "HIGH/LOW".
As far as changing from 24fps to silent speed... in short,you can't. Here's the specs on the machine, hope thats of help:
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The SNT and ENT projectors are identical except for switching. The SNT-Series uses a Rotary Switch and the ENT-Series uses Electronic Push Button Switching. ENT-Series machines have the added features of a Film Guard Switch, Auto-Stop Switch at Film End and End of Self-Threading and a Remote Control Connector. A hand held remote control is optional.
The numbers following the SNT/ENT designation indicate the following:
SNT/ENT -0 = Standard Model
SNT/ENT -1 = Additional Speakers in Cover
SNT/ENT -2 = Optical & Magnetic Sound
SNT/ENT -3 = Magnetic Recording
Eiki Model SNT (Slim Self-Threader) Specifications Power Source: 105-125VAC, 50/60 Hz.
120/240VAC switchable model optional
Power consumption: 430W
Lamp: ELC 24V 250w.
Standard Lens: 50mm (2") f/1.2 6-element, coated, with micro-focusing, 160 lines per mm (centre) resolution.
Shutter: 3 blade (2 blade optional).
Exciter Lamp: 4V-0.75A, BRK.
Motor: Induction, with capacitor (plug in module).
Film Speed: 24 FPS, sound speed.
Loop Controls: Lower loop restored automatically
Control Switch: Single rotary lockout switch for forward, lamp on, reverse and rewind.
Lamp Brightness: 850 lumens typical (with optional 2-blade shutter).
Lamp Switch: High/low.
Rewind: High-speed reel-to-reel. No reel or arm change required.
Reel Capacity: 2000 ft. reel standard.
Speaker Cord: 15m (50 ft.)
Film Threading: Self-threading.
Still Picture: Manual, with heat filter.
Public Address: Built-in microphone jack
Power Cord: 3m (9ft.).
Shipping Weight: 18Kg (40 lbs).
External Audio
Jack: 8 ohm 1/4" phone, with 600 ohm unbalanced line, when using 1/4" stereo phone plug.
Amplifier: Solid state (plug in module). 25w RMS.
Tone Control: Individual treble and bass.
Wow & Flutter: 0.2% WRMS.
Ian. South Wales
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted May 27, 2007 04:47 AM
Louis - which model of Eiki have you seen?
I use 2 Eikis, a SSL-2 and a ENT/3585 (in B&H livery). I'd say theyt are basically good machines and I wouldn't opt for another make as I have the lenses I need, but all the Eikis I've owned have given me minor to major problems at times, even when new or hardly used. E.g. the pressure plate springs on my SSL-2 were too weak, causing some unsteadiness, so I had to stretch them. New replacements were no better. Slot loading may work well 95% of the time, but take care before starting a prized film part of the way through, because if the film fails to lace up properly, they can cause serious damage! In my experience, the rotary switches frequently give a sense of not being perfectly lined up mechanically, particularly when rewinding (anyone else find this?), so I much prefer the 'touch' switches on the ENT.
Actually, you can run Eikis the silent speed but it's dependent on you having the right pulley for this. But as this involves removing the back and moving the relevant belt, it's a real pain, so I envy people with B&Hs, etc, who only have to move a switch, as with an 8mm projector. Also, UK Eikis/Elfs tend to have 2 bladed shutters, although I believe 3 bladed is common in the USA.
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Adrian Winchester
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted May 27, 2007 05:18 PM
Graham,
I've just checked the ESL/SSL instruction manual, that confirms that every model has the lamp switch, except the SSL-0L. This is a lighter model with a less powerful amplifier (15w instead of 25w) and a EYK/EWG 300w 120v lamp. Presumably that's the model you have.
Louis,
The one pictured could be any SSL apart from the SSL-2, as it doesn't have the magnetic sound switch. The model will be indicated on a plate on the back, and probably on the top of the handle. Looks like it has been used quite a bit, but it could still be a good buy at the right price.
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Adrian Winchester
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John Whittle
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 791
From: Northridge, CA USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 28, 2007 11:27 AM
A common problem with the Eiki Slot loads is forming of the upper loop. Watch the upper roller as you slowly close the rotary switch, It will move up slowly, then jump up just as the gate closes and drop down to it's run position.
If someone has forced the projector at some point, the cam follower inside the machine may not be properly following the spring to make these actions happen. It's a relatively easy fix and if you watch the projector thru the setting cycle, you won't have a problem.
Also, while it's possible to rewind/review thru the gate on both the Eiki and Elmo, I recommend against it.
The projector without the lamp high/low setting does indeed use a line voltage lamp, but it also uses windings in the motor to detrive the voltages for the amp and exciter lamp circuit. Something Eiki did back with eh MS series and the first ST series projectors. If possible, look for a projector that uses the 24 volt lamp instead. You'll be much happier since the amp voltage will fluctuate with motor load on the line voltage model.
John
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