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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted September 13, 2008 10:00 AM

Am I just not seeing things right or are there actually different model numbers for B&H machines as sold in the USA and the UK? For example, US websites don't seem to carry any mention of 601, 631, 640 etc. Is there a list of equivelants anywhere?
Martin

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Steven Sigel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Massachusetts
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 13, 2008 11:13 AM

You are correct - the US and UK model #s are different.

I don't know anything about the UK models, so I can't help you match them up I'm afraid...

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Simon McConway
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Doncaster, UK
Registered: Jun 2004

posted September 13, 2008 11:57 AM

In the USA, a few of the earlier models were totally different in appearance to the same UK ones. For example, the 655, had a very thin base, which didn't contain the amplifier, whereas the UK version had a thicker base with the amp inside. Model numbers varied; the 666 UK machine (utilising the MARC 300 lamp) was numbered 566 in the USA, and again, each USA machine looked different to the UK model.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 13, 2008 12:14 PM

This reply only refers to the wooden case "blimp" models. I cannot swear that it is completely accurate. but I've done my best!

179 1945-1949 601
185 1949-1951 621
202 1952-1955 630
285 1954-1955 631
302 1963-1965 640
385 1955-1965 636

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John Whittle
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Northridge, CA USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted September 15, 2008 03:27 PM

We're there some UK versions of the 302 with a transistorized amp? There was one USA 8399 which was the "specalist" version of the 385 which had a transistor amp and was actually made in Japan. I don't know if any of the 385 series machines in the UK were make in Japan but at some point B&H sent all the tooling to Japan for that line of projectors from Chicago. At one time the UK versions were make by Rank if memory serves me.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted September 16, 2008 02:29 AM

John

I have an 8636 (1975) which was made in Japan, it's AC/DC and multi-voltage. It's the blimp model, "Maritime".

It has a photo-diode sound pick-up and the amp is both transistors and valves. The sound is superb but the light isn't so good as it uses UK mains voltage lamps.

However, it runs well and I use it occasionally.

Bell & Howells were made in the UK up to the early sixties. They were made by Rank and when their licence ran out Rank turned to German Bauer for projectors which were badged "Rank Aldis".

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David Park
Master Film Handler

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From: UK
Registered: Nov 2003

posted September 24, 2008 10:14 AM

Will this help.
http://paulivester.com/films/projector/bh_models.htm

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