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Adam Deierling
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 - posted July 04, 2014 11:02 PM      Profile for Adam Deierling   Email Adam Deierling   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has anyone ever done a comparison between a xenon elmo cl and a standard cl? Is the light output significantly brighter?

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Mark Mander
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 - posted July 05, 2014 02:20 AM      Profile for Mark Mander     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Adam, the light output on the xenon CL is much brighter than the standard machine even though it's the same wattage. I watched a film on a sunny afternoon without drawing the curtains on a xenon and you could see the picture no problem and on my standard machine I would just about see the image. For such a compact machine the xenon is impressive, Mark

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Oemer Yalinkilic
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 - posted July 05, 2014 06:35 PM      Profile for Oemer Yalinkilic   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Definitley, the image looks bright like in a real cinema.
I have one Halogen Elmo 16CL and two 16CL-Xenon projectors and I use only the Xenon projectors.

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Paul Mason
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 - posted July 06, 2014 07:54 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A test report in "Movie Maker" in August 1977 found the standard Elmo 16-CL had an output of 540 lumens. A few years later Movie Maker found that a Bell & Howell 1568 with a Gemini lamp had an output of about 1800 lumens. That is three times more, so I would expect a Elmo with a similar 300/350W xenon to equal this. This means the Xenon will give a screen of 3 times the area or 1.73 times wider for the same brightness.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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 - posted July 29, 2014 03:27 PM      Profile for Mitchell Dvoskin   Email Mitchell Dvoskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
> Bell & Howell 1568 with a GE Marc 300

The B&H 1568 dis not use a Marc 300 bulb, they used the Gemini 350 bulb. Both are mercury vapor arc bulbs, but the Gemini was slightly smaller, different reflector, and slightly brighter.

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Paul Mason
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 - posted July 31, 2014 03:41 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for pointing that out Mitchell. I've corrected the post.

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