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Gilbert Lambert
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From: Ostende, Belgium
Registered: May 2016


 - posted April 06, 2017 08:34 AM      Profile for Gilbert Lambert   Author's Homepage   Email Gilbert Lambert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi, Just bought a 16mm Splicer with tape , but it is for perforations on both sides of 16mm ( silent films )... Can I fix it to use it only for sound movies ? If yes anybody knows how to make the other side of the film where the soundtrack is will not be perforated? I can not return it , so try to adapt it for sound 16mm splicing if possible, Thanks, Gilbert

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted April 06, 2017 10:52 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gilbert
Is your splicer the large size CIR?
The deluxe models have a knob which turns to move the pins to show:-
1) Two for silent films
2) One for sound firms
3) No pins to help with shrunken film

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Gilbert Lambert
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From: Ostende, Belgium
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 - posted April 06, 2017 11:05 AM      Profile for Gilbert Lambert   Author's Homepage   Email Gilbert Lambert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Maurice, It's this model Here's a link on eBay where they sell the very same in Germany http://www.ebay.de/itm/Klebepresse-16mm-Kinofilm-Trockenklebepresse-/132144200521?hash=item1ec4687b49:g:XLsAAOSwhQhY3nyT
Thanks for your help, Gilbert

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David Fouracre
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 - posted April 06, 2017 02:08 PM      Profile for David Fouracre   Email David Fouracre   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gilbert,
If your CIR splicer has a 6 tooth tape punch (three teeth either side of film), you could carefully grind the unwanted teeth from the removable punch. Great care should be excercised in re-seating the modified punch set, but could resolve the problem!

David

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted April 07, 2017 02:32 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gilbert
I am sorry that I did not fully understand your comments, but having seen the picture, it reveals a discontinued model from CIR. It is known as "M3 16mm 2T Double Perf Special (INC 48)".
I agree with David's suggestion that you should dismantle the cutting assembly and cut off the relevant punches.

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Gilbert Lambert
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 - posted April 07, 2017 05:37 AM      Profile for Gilbert Lambert   Author's Homepage   Email Gilbert Lambert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you very much David and Maurice, I'll fix it, I thought about it but wasn't sure it was possible, otherwise it cuts perfectly , I'll give it a shot. warmest regards, Gilbert

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted April 07, 2017 06:14 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gilbert
If you do not have a manual for a CIR splicer you can get one from Film-Tech as below. It explains how to dismantle the splicer. It may help you.
http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/index.php?category=2#Splicers

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Gilbert Lambert
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 - posted April 08, 2017 04:14 PM      Profile for Gilbert Lambert   Author's Homepage   Email Gilbert Lambert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was able to convince the seller to take it back, I only lost the postage ... Thank you for everything. I already discovered a better one for only 10% more than I paid this one. I could have fixed it, but I think it's still better to have a good one. I learned something new. Never too old for that as I had no idea these existed. Thank you so much, Gilbert

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