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Steve Klare
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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted November 03, 2007 06:20 AM
Years ago when "Titanic" was all the rage, a grown woman my wife worked with said "Can you imagine if something like that really happened?".
The "Fudd issue" is mostly tongue in cheek to me. If anything I feel bad for these kids that instead of these great cartoons they have the cheap trash that's on TV today.
The differences are obvious. The classic cartoons were meant to be shown theatrically along with feature films, so not only did they have to be big screen quality, but they had to appeal to a general audience while not being age inappropriate even to little ones. This means as you grow up, they tend to keep up with you. The cartoons on TV these days are usually cheap CGI and segmented to fit specific age ranges. This not only means they outgrow them, but as a result of my five year old seeing a teen show, we had to stop him from saying "Oh, crap!" in Kindergarten. (No smily face that day...)
Mel Blanc, we need you now!
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Osi Osgood
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posted November 03, 2007 10:42 AM
You guys are bringing up major points. Though only 42, I am amazed at just how quickly our human condition is rapidly falling apart. my wife and I have a ten year plan. We already own our house in town here, but we plan on moving into the mountians, away from society as a whole, and only coming into town when needed, (shopping, ect.)
I really never saw myself as a pessemist, but I AM a realist. We really are (with all sincerity) only a generation away from complete society collapse. I would rather watch it collapse from a distance. this is because I honetly believe that things have progressed to the point where it really can't be turned around. Sure, people could become seriously concerned and reach out to those around them, but society in general would rather huddle in front of thier SONY trinitron, hoping that the outside world will just leave them alone, hoping that it will just go away, and meanwhile, the chaos moves ever closer.
I see the mannerisms of this generation, (late teens having babies now), and they are near nil! You cannot pass on what you have not valued and inculcated into your own world view.
Granted, there are still some good kids coming out these days, but what kept the shrill shreiking hell from approaching was that the "bad eggs" were few in number. Now, the bad eggs far out-number the good kids. I really do fear the near future, not for myself, (for, I see it coming), but for most, it will catch them completely unaware.
This post could go on much longer, but I'll just end it by saying, just watch over the next six months, as the already sagging housing market, (speaking of america) gets incredibly bad, quadrupiling foreclosures and the families of this nation who had no real savings to speak of already, going completely belly up!
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Steve Klare
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posted November 03, 2007 11:40 AM
Jeeze Guys!,
-all I meant to say is how sad it is a little girl never heard of Elmer J. Fudd, not foretell the coming apocalypse!
Sometime more than two thousand years ago, a Greek Philosopher bemoaned the upcoming generation and wrote that based on what we saw he feared for the future of society. (I don’t remember which: I was an Engineering Major, after all!) So you see Osi, you are now one with the ancients!
Now is just a moment. Tomorrow may be better or worse, but it will surely be different whether the cartoons are good or not.
The two girls in question are by the way actually quite smart and nice kids too. They just need to watch a better class of cartoons (I can and do help there, by the way.) The older one baby-sits for us and the younger one will in a few years too.
I'm betting in a lot of cases that if they asked me about things that they really like, I might get to look just as ignorant in their eyes too! (-classic generation gap!)
(There seems to be an immense herd of twenty year old pop stars with names like Brittany/Tiffany/Destiny/Dysentery which I can't tell one from another!)
[ November 03, 2007, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Steve Klare ]
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Steve Klare
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posted November 03, 2007 07:16 PM
Unfortunately many to most people don't learn, and do repeat, and history just makes for interesting reading centuries later.
I think if people could live maybe 4 or 500 years, they'd get to live through enough history to begin to understand it's lessons, and maybe become a little wiser.
-as it stands, less than 100 years just doesn't seem to be enough!
Of course this gets back to the collective memory of society that Claus was talking about before and how we can tap into the wisdom (and even the foolishness) of our ancestors without having lived their lives, but it takes a certain wisdom just to listen as well.
Big ideas in a thread started because of a silly man who not only couldn't catch a rabbit, he couldn't even pronounce the word!
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Graham Ritchie
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posted November 04, 2007 01:45 PM
Steve
I liked the wabbit joke, ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Talking about the lack of knowledge these days, I went to the supermarket a gave $5 for something that cost $2.50 the young check out, a schoolkid just learning, well he was trying to count out my change and was having trouble, ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) so I said "right" grabbed his hand took the change out of it, and said this is how you do it, its $2.50 right, 50 cents makes it $3 and $2 makes $5, change $2.50 got it, he looked a bit surprised I think I came across like a school teacher, there is another one at the cinema who really surprised me, when I showed him an old photo of the liner "Queen Mary" I said guess the name of the ship, he replied "Titanic" I hit him with the newspaper and said try again, he replied that "Titanic" was the only movie he has seen with a boat in it, I gave up at that point, although my school education was short, I did at least learn something "myby the flying duster ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) from the teacher bouncing of your skull was the incentive".
Graham.
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