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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted October 07, 2004 10:23 PM      Profile for Chip Gelmini     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok guys, this will shead some light why I thought the Ebay sale for the B&H without a lens was funny ("I laughed so very hard at this").

Being a fan of non verbal art films, such as Koyannisqatsi (1982), Powwaqqatsi (1991); Baraka (1993); and Nacoyqatsi (2002); and Chronos the Imax film (year unkown) but all of these are out on DVD now. Here I go about to make my own type and yep it's going to be on super 8.

I have started shooting a time lapse film on super 8 here where I live on Cape Cod. Currently, I am shooting a test roll to see if my idea will work. If yes, then next summer I will shoot the actual film, with an October 2006 release on video.

The plan is to use the super 8 camera as a still camera, hence the time lapse mode. I'll go out and about capturing everday activities during the summer of 2005 on Cape Cod.

In the video transfer, the film print will be run at 2 FPS. That means an entire 50 foot spool of super 8 cartridge, normally 3 minutes at 18FPS, will run 27 minutes at 2 FPS.

Sync it up to titlemaker credits (video generated) and some new age music and I think I'm on to something.

This has everything to do with some of those B&H machines. The ones that come with good rubber feed rollers, and oh yes, the lens installed.

Some of these models have multi motion, which gives standard 18 FPS normal, 6 FPS slow, and 2 FPS step motion.

I've tested the step motion with standard super 8 footage and times the 50 foot lengths. It appears this idea will work OK, but it was hard to tell with standard footage shot to run at 18fps. The problem was while that the speed worked, the footage was naturally boring.

I think this project will look very neat with 12 frames of every subject @ 2 frames per second = 6 seconds of slo mo screen time per framed subject.

Part of this film will also be shot with my 35mm Nikon SLR (the FM-2). Because I can increase the depth of field by selecting a stronger F-stop ( say F22 instead of 5.6), and by also selecting a longer shutter speed (1/15th of a sec instead of 1/250). This will, for example, blur the images of cars going around a rotary or over a bridge, while the streets and buildings stay perfectly still (the camera on a tripod). Obviously for this effect, the super 8 camera will not work. I then will re-shoot the printed pictures from the Nikon on to single frame advance with the super 8 camera as if it were cell by cell animation.

So all in all I am excited about this. For those of you with super 8 cameras, I am using a Bolex XL551.

Getting back to the Ebay item without a lens....to purchase a working machine, I was scammed with 3 B&H models that had 2 rubber feed rollers melted; and the 3rd with a bad film claw.

I ended up bidding on the Sears projector unit that B&H made for Sears which is identical to the B&H model, but with the Sears name on it. Ironically, the two Sears machines I got were nearly perfect and only needed bulbs.

So that is why I spoke outloud about that projector without the lens. I don't know who is going to win it. I hoipe it's nobody here in this forum. And I know it won't be me.

Comments are appreciated in my over all idea for this film I am making. It should be pretty wild when all is said and done.

Regards,

Chip Gelmini

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