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Paul Adsett
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 - posted June 20, 2006 05:55 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I have just finished some re-furb of my HT room and am amazed at the boost in (apparent) picture quality that I have acheived with just a few simple changes in the room environment and decor. First I changed the paint scheme of the room from an off-white color to a beige. I know the ideal color for a cinema room is matt black, but who wants to live with that! Using beiges and burgundies can really dampen down the cross reflections from the screen to the walls and back to the screen. I hung some non-reflective cinema art along the side walls to further decrease screen reflections and add to the cinema feel of the room. I also redid the screen wall, incorporating burgundy drapes and moveable matt black masking, which puts a very wide matt black border around the screen area in any format. What a difference these simple changes made! The impact of the super 8 or DVD picture is enhanced immensely, better contrast and color, since light reflections on the screen are the bain of any front projection system. I know this is probably preaching to the choir, but if you have not taken similar steps in your HT room, I would recommend doing so, for a thrilling boost in the viewing experience at very little cost.

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Jan Bister
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 - posted June 20, 2006 07:05 PM      Profile for Jan Bister   Email Jan Bister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Photos.... let's see photos! [Smile]

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Joe Taffis
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 - posted June 20, 2006 08:53 PM      Profile for Joe Taffis   Email Joe Taffis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, that sounds great....i'm going to try it this summer. [Smile]

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Stuart Fyvie
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 - posted June 21, 2006 02:28 AM      Profile for Stuart Fyvie   Email Stuart Fyvie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is always best to have a 'dark' room to view projected images in, whether film or video. This will improve the contrast. Dark Back walls in particular will help. Preferably
a neutral grey and a matt finish.
Cheers,
Stuart

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Mike Peckham
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 - posted June 21, 2006 03:44 AM      Profile for Mike Peckham   Email Mike Peckham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Paul

I do envy you having a dedicated screening room, but hopefully when I get back to the UK I can set too with mine, like yours, it will be a joint DVD and super 8 set-up.

Interestingly, the one most important 'tweak' I think you can make (as you have), is getting the black masking just right. I was amazed at how the masking, with the picture filling the screen to the edges with a little bleed into the masking, makes the image look so much sharper.

Of course, in an ideal world wouldn't it be great to be able to paint the walls and ceiling matt black - but if the room needs to be used for other things that could make it quite opressive...

So, what about some photos? [Wink]

Mike [Cool]

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Douglas Meltzer
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If only there were some photos....... [Big Grin]

Doug

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Jan Bister
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 - posted June 22, 2006 09:11 PM      Profile for Jan Bister   Email Jan Bister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Indeed.

Disposable cameras are cheap, y'know.

[Wink]

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Paul Adsett
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Well after much prodding from Jan and Doug, I have managed to overcome the difficulties of down loading from the memory stick on my DVD camera. This only took me 3 hours! No wonder I still prefer the simplicity of my 35mm still camera! Anyway here's a general view of my refurbed HT room with the new wall paint, and new burgundy curtains and moveable black masking installation:

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Jan Bister
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Niiiiiiiice.

I love how you put that Bolex 18-5 on display. [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

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Graham Ritchie
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 - posted June 29, 2006 04:23 AM      Profile for Graham Ritchie   Email Graham Ritchie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Paul
What a difference the curtains and masking make, did you fit the pelmets over the curtain tracks at the same time, they certainly add character and in keeping with the rest of the room the photos look great [Smile]
Regards Graham.

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John Clancy
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Where's the oak tree gone?

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Paul Adsett
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Thank's Guys!
Graham, I had originally installed the pelmet to cover up the powered screen. When I added the curtains and moveable masking panels, I had to move the pelmet out from the wall by an additional 4 inches. Not shown in the picure, is the cinema art which is revealed on the wall when the screen is retracted.
This whole project has been a lot of fun. But the real payoff is in the ambiance of the room, which is now very cosy and inviting, and the huge improvement in perceived picture quality that results from the wide black masking. This is particularly true for super 8 showings.

Jan, yes I love to display my projectors. They always stimulate interest with visitors, and they are real works of art, just beautiful to look at, particularly the 18-5.

John, the oak tree is long gone. We really miss it so we are planting a replacement!

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Andrew Wilson
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very nice indeed paul.excellent.andy.

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John Clancy
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As long as the new oak tree stays in the garden this time!!!

Nice room Paul. I'll bring the popcorn!

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Mike Peckham
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 - posted June 30, 2006 04:19 AM      Profile for Mike Peckham   Email Mike Peckham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul

Great pictures of a great screening room, really inspiring!

Mike [Cool]

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Michael De Angelis
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Paul,

Teriffic show!

Three hours is a long time,
but it is much appreciated here.
Thanks for uploading these picts.

How long is the room as well as the distance
from the projectors (Film and Video) to the screen?

How close are the chairs and seating area
placed from the screen?

Last but not least, are the curtains motorized?

Michael

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Paul Adsett
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Hi Michael,
and thanks for the positive comments!. The room is 22ft long and 12 ft wide. The video and film projectors are both at the 22ft end wall of the room, with the video projector (Panasonic AE-700U) mounted up 7ft high on a shelf and the GS1200 below it on a stand. The screen is 8ft wide when masked to a 16:9 format. The two front row reclining seats are 9ft back from the screen, the second row (3 seat reclining couch) is 16 ft from the screen. I can bring in a back row of 5 portable swivel seats for bigger shows, which are then 20ft from the screen. At a crunch, I can probably squeeze in about 12 people.
The curtains and masking panels are presently manually operated, but I am already working on the design of a motorized controller, which is the next thing I want to do. I am planning on using a couple of 24 volt gear motors. I checked out the cost of a double commercial motorised curtain set and it was $1,500.00! I figure I can do the same thing for a couple of hundred dollars.
The nice thing is that this is an ongoing project, there always seems to be new things to do to the room to improve it. And the payoff in picture quality and film enjoyment is huge.

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