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Topic: The Mystery of the "U.K."
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 04, 2007 10:07 AM
After having read many posts on the activity with Super 8 in the U.K. (as well as in Germany and elsewhere), I have become more than envious of them but perplexed ....
Could someone from the U.K. explain WHY Super 8 is still kicking in the U.K. at as strong of a rate as it is?
I mean, I know that with the U.S., so much is driven by profit margins and trends sadly rule things, (VHS in, Super 8 out), but the U.K. has realistic economic realities as well, and yet Super 8 still keeps chugging over there.
So I ask again, please explain U.K. film fanatics, why Super 8 is as strong as it is. Only you guys could REALLY explain it.
OSI
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Osi Osgood
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posted August 04, 2007 10:58 PM
It makes as much sense as anything I can come up with. The Nolstalgia plays big in it.
I wonder if part of it is that, quite frankly, the U.S. is
still a rather new country on the map. We have no long term history, (and wouldn't apart from Jolly ole England as well),
and being we have no long term history, there's not a rich and long history to value, while the U.K has a history that spans time itself.
I don't know if that really plays into Super 8mm, but perhaps Super 8 in the U.K. holds more meaning because the Brits value things in a more "long Term" way
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Barry Attwood
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From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted August 05, 2007 02:53 AM
You've also got to consider the fact that we still have the equipment (albeit a bit old now) and facilities to produce fine 8mm prints, if it were not for the U.K. & German labs that produce the 8mm prints, and the likes of Derann who can turn them into finished 8mm product i.e. splitting, striping and sounding, then this hobby would have been dead when Kodak and all the other manufacturers decided to pull the plug on pre-striped stock. I don't think any other country would have held onto what many would have called a DEAD HOBBY , and the only 8mm prints I know off originating from the U.S. in the last 20 years have been silent prints, perhaps that tells us something too, as the biggest country in the world does not have any facilities left for making sound 8mm prints, strange isn't it!
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted August 06, 2007 02:12 PM
Boy, that's saying a lot, given that Thunderbird films was never really high on the quality level, (personal opinion, of course.)
One of the points brought up i think is quite close to the mark.
The U.K. still has the equipment to do this kind of work.
Does anybody (with the forum in america) have the facilities to make new super 8 prints, or has all the quipment been destroyed?
If not, who has all the stuff?
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James N. Savage 3
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posted August 10, 2007 06:06 AM
Question asked: Who was the last to release material on super-8 in the U.S.?
Well, the last "company" that I recall was "REEL TO REEL", located somewhere in New York. That was up into the 90's.
Then, you had a few very small independent operations, like Jef Films and a guy in California, Steve Vilarino, who was printing some rare stuff, like Hardware Wars and Mr. Bill shorts (Saturday Night Live). The last time I ordered from him was around 1996.
If anyone knows of later U.S. releases, please correct me. But this is the best of my knowledge.
James.
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