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Jim Carlile
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From: Burbank, California, USA
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 - posted April 24, 2008 01:12 AM      Profile for Jim Carlile   Email Jim Carlile   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This looks mighty interesting. Anybody know a rich widow to marry?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:IT&item=250240549887&_trksid=p3984.cSELL.m315.lVI

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted April 24, 2008 11:58 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, I saw this too. Too bad I don't have the money, though I'm betting they'll drop it over time. I don't think it will sell for the price they are asking.

I understand that this is being released in america on DVD finally, though I'd love to see Criterion do a DVD release of this.

Criterion reminds me of Blackhawk, very much into preserving film and restoring it. I'd love to buy thier release of "Mr. Arkkadin"

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Jim Carlile
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 - posted April 25, 2008 04:37 AM      Profile for Jim Carlile   Email Jim Carlile   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
They're releasing Ambersons soon, too. You know the rumor-- they found a full print of the original version.......

If so, that's big news....

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted April 25, 2008 10:08 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's entirely possible. Though RKO stated that it had destroyed all the original film elements for the lost scenes, there are always duplicate copiues of many a cut scene.

That's another area where ebay can really help. You see a number of old collectors selling off large lots of 35MM bits and pieces from when they worked in the system.

One time, there was auctioned off an original 35MM nitrate print of a (until that time) lost version of "A Christmas Carol" from 1922. All three reels of it.

I bet an archivist bought that one up and hopefully transferred it to safety film.

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Michael O'Regan
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 - posted April 25, 2008 10:31 AM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The original full cut of MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS is a movie lovers dream.

Can I ask the source of this information?

-Mike

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Jim Carlile
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 - posted April 30, 2008 03:42 AM      Profile for Jim Carlile   Email Jim Carlile   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Roger: You may be quite right, and Baesen was of somewhat the same opinion about William Friedkin's remarks on THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS and IT'S ALL TRUE. I can only report what I heard and saw. He was talking about essentially "lost films," not alternate versions.

Friedkin, dressed rather casually, obviously pleased at the large, friendly crowd at the Castro on a Monday evening, ranged widely in his address, often scarcely allowing the on-stage interviewer a question. He paced about from one side of the stage to the other, tip-toeing around the organ pit, complaining jocularly about the lack of a follow spot. He was obviously proud of the job which had been done by the Warner Brothers' restoration team on his film retrospective, prliminary to a DVD set release (mentioned in the chat referred to here a couple of times).

Quite early, after praising DVD departments in general, and specifically, behind the scenes "assistant producers" who love films to the extent of not following orders for their destruction, he launched into his tale of the rescued version of Orson Welles' THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS, in support of his thesis; quickly appending that IT'S ALL TRUE had been similarly discovered and subsequently released. He said these preservations were possible because someone in lower management had not destroyed the negatives as ordered but placed them in cans marked "Welles Films," which sat on shelves in film vaults for decades.

Tantalizing, isn't it. I think this was from Welles net or someplace like that.

An original Ambersons is the holy grail. Warners has also made recent comments that they have found some 'elements' and are preparing a release.

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