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Bob Pucci
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Westerly,RI
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 - posted December 19, 2008 07:07 AM      Profile for Bob Pucci     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Since Taylor does not make anymore 1200 foot steel reels,just 1200 foot plastic reels.What are your recomendations on them.Do they warp etc.Thanks

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Bart Smith
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 - posted December 19, 2008 07:14 AM      Profile for Bart Smith   Author's Homepage   Email Bart Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The last time I was in contact with Taylor they send me two Excel sheets with their complete inventory of Cine reels on them, the largest Super 8 size listed is 400ft.

Bart

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Bob Pucci
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 - posted December 19, 2008 08:35 AM      Profile for Bob Pucci     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Bart

I emailed them and they replied that they have them,23 per carton @ $9.00 each.They said that they don't do steel anymore.

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Bart Smith
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 - posted December 19, 2008 08:48 AM      Profile for Bart Smith   Author's Homepage   Email Bart Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Strange that they don't include them on their lists!

It was only a few months ago, I was in contact with Kathi White.

Bart

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Bob Pucci
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 - posted December 19, 2008 09:12 AM      Profile for Bob Pucci     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is the person I talked too Kathi White.She said that they don't advertise them.Anyway,have you heard any good things about large plastic reels?

Bob

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Bart Smith
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 - posted December 19, 2008 09:38 AM      Profile for Bart Smith   Author's Homepage   Email Bart Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Bob,

I've only personally come across their smaller reels, e.g. up to 400ft. They are not that pretty, but they are inexpensive, and I've had no issues with the smaller ones other than that they look and feel cheap. They do their job fine and they are good value for money. At only $9 a pop I'm sure you could shift a few on if you don't like them!

Bart

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Chip Gelmini
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From: Brooksville, FL
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 - posted December 19, 2008 10:41 AM      Profile for Chip Gelmini     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have to say I do NOT like the Taylor plastic 1600 foot small hub reels. For a number of reasons. They warp; they are to wide to properly fit on Neumade's brass adapters; but my biggest complaint is they do not hold 1600 foot of film.

I prefer to use Goldberg steel reels. Yes, the heavy ones. But I do run with the Towers for supply and take up, so for me they are better. I understand and agree the weight of Goldberg reels might not be good on the ST/GS1200 series machines.

Anyways, I took my print of Mary Poppins and made it up on 2 reels 1600 feet. I store it on the Taylor 1600. The print on both reels comes right to the edge. So close, that I must use tape to secure it.

Before running the print, I fast forward it off the Taylor reels; and place in on 2 Goldberg reels, 1600 foot large hub. On these reels, the film print stops just about 1/2 inch under the edge.

So do tell me, if the Taylor reel is full to the edge with the same print that under fills a Goldberg and both reels are the same noted capacity; how can the Taylor hold the estimated amount? I have given this much thought, and I do not think it comes down to acetate vs polyester.

And I do not like the way all plastic reels have thicker flanges. This means if storing two reels in one can, the can can not properly close. Of course, this is how these are made, a nature of the beast.

In my opinion, a reel like the Taylor plastic would be much better if it was made in steel. But we know that's not going to happen either.

~ CG ~

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Kevin Faulkner
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From: Essex UK
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 - posted December 19, 2008 06:55 PM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
I have to say that I love the Taylor 1600ft blue plastic spools. I know they don't really hold a full 1600ft but they sit on the Elmo without scraping about on the reel arms which is a problem I found with the oversized holes of the superspool produced here in the UK.
As for warpage of these spools once they have film on them warpage doesnt seem to be a problem.
The larger metal reels produced by the likes of Goldberg are horrible. They have a lot of slop caused by oversized holes and that leads to the reels rubbing grooves in the reel arms.
Where the GS is concerned with its reel motors I think the weight of some of these large metal reels full with film does put a strain on the motors. I can fully understand why Elmo used aluminum as its much lighter in weight.

Kev.

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Dan Lail
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 - posted December 19, 2008 07:17 PM      Profile for Dan Lail   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bob, I bought a case(24@ $9.00ea.) of these blue reels four years ago and I like them. They come with a cardboard rim insert. If you leave the cardboard in the unused reels it keeps them from warping. They actually make them by the case when you order them. It only took a few days to make a case.

[ December 19, 2008, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: Dan Lail ]

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James N. Savage 3
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 - posted December 19, 2008 08:10 PM      Profile for James N. Savage 3     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've always been very fond of the beautiful "Goldburg" reels. They are very professional looking, dark brown, steel, and have always performed well with my Sankyo projectors.

My only problem is that they aren't compatable with my recently acquired BAUER projector, so I have to respool films onto a Taylor reel when I use the BAUER. Luckily, only about 1/4 of my collection is on Goldburg reels (since they were so expensive), so I don't run into that problem too often.

James.

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David Kilderry
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 - posted December 19, 2008 11:25 PM      Profile for David Kilderry   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you just want 400ft or 200ft plastic reels in a case you can't go past brand new Tuscan reels. Check their website for deatils.

David

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Chip Gelmini
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 - posted December 20, 2008 11:15 AM      Profile for Chip Gelmini     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Please search this forum for my earlier post from a few years ago, called TAKE UP REEL SOLUTIONS. There is alot of information here about this subject.

CG

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