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Martin Jones
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posted December 15, 2008 06:33 AM

How about this then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140288435487&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:GB:1123#ht_935wt_909
Martin

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Mike Peckham
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posted December 15, 2008 12:58 PM

So would this have been a super 8 camera with all the benefits of standard 8 but with the bonus of the larger image area?

No matter how good it is I reckon that price is just a little steep... [Eek!]

Mike

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Glenn Brady
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posted December 15, 2008 02:40 PM

I'm unaware of any regular 8mm cameras (or other Super 8 cameras) that can run at 250 frames a second and have pin registration, so that's really this camera's claim to fame. For an amateur user of Super 8 this camera seems really expensive, but the target market was science & industry from the outset, not amateur filmmakers.

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Claus Harding
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posted December 15, 2008 03:12 PM

The scary part for me would be exactly the screaming high-speed runs using the good but humble Kodak Cassette. As the seller notes, "melting down" the running pin on the cassette is real possibility above 250 f.p.s. This gives you, what? 24 seconds of a 50-ft load, or is my math really shot (I am guesstimating at 24fps for comparison.)
But the drum and transport look like something out of a Mitchell, so for regular use, I'm sure it would look incredible.

Now, of course, watching a super-super-slow mo. scene like that on your home machine would be gorgeous, as long as you really think about what it is you want at that speed before hitting the trigger. And as long as the cassette hangs in there.

Claus.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted December 15, 2008 10:17 PM

I use my math to calculate the duration of 50ft cart at 250 fps.

1 50ft = 150 seconds at 24 fps = 3600 frames.

at 250fps = 3600 : 250 = 14.4 seconds.

So 1 50 ft will last 14.4 seconds.

My question, is how can the last frame can still intact in the cart at that speed? [Cool]

cheers

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Maurice Leakey
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posted December 16, 2008 11:41 AM

I thought it was a reasonable price until I realised I was looking at the postage cost!

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Claus Harding
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From: Washington DC
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posted December 16, 2008 02:29 PM

Winbert,

I stand corrected, so 14 glorious seconds of slo-mo.... [Eek!]

I wonder what the ramp-up speed on this beast is; I can't imagine going from zero to 250 in a hurry without destroying the perfs, much like the 35mm versions 'take their time' to get up to speed. Granted, a cassette is much more lightweight than 1000 feet of 35, but nonetheless....
We do have to keep an eye on who might buy it [Big Grin]

Claus.

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