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Topic: Who released JURASSIC PARK?

Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted June 02, 2009 06:12 PM

Just wondering who released JURASSIC PARK in super 8 and if there is someone selling a used copy (if it is not possible to find a brand new one, of course). Hope you guys can help me. Thanks.

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James N. Savage 3
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posted June 03, 2009 05:27 PM

Gian-

I'm not sure, but I think it was CHC, printed in German lab.

Hope you can find a print Gian.

James.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted June 03, 2009 05:46 PM

Hi James. And thanks a lot. I'll try to contact Phil to ask him. You were very kind. [Wink]

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Osi Osgood
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posted June 03, 2009 06:59 PM

Gian ...

Actually, the person who released Jurrasic Park was that stupid fat dude. Also, in the process, he stole Dino embryo's
(no, not our own Dino Everette), but thankfully, though he released the Dino's to run wild, he got munched!

I hope that I cleared up any confusion, Gian.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted June 03, 2009 07:03 PM

Osi -
you definitively did! [Wink]

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John Clancy
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posted June 04, 2009 03:14 AM

Classic will be able to sell you a new print but this was a German release. Derann did have a few copies but I believe they striped them themselves which is why there were a few copies being sold off cheap with flaking sound stripe (it didn't stick to the acetate stock).

The prints are good and given the way the German lab looks after the negatives they should still be good.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted June 04, 2009 05:13 PM

Hi John. Thanks a lot for your precious information. Hunting has begun!

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted June 05, 2009 01:22 AM

Anybody seen a print of this?
I'm just curious:
Someone I met at a convention told me that it was actually kinescoped from the DVD. Sounds like a lot of trouble to release a super 8 film.

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John Clancy
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posted June 05, 2009 03:10 AM

We've shown extracts from the Super 8 release at 3 BFCC's. The quality is very good and definitely from a 35mm master - a good one at that. We ran the T-Rex sequence in sync' with the PAL DVD when I had my THX sound system at Ealing once and the floor was shaking even with the size of the Victoria Hall. Mightily impressive.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted June 05, 2009 04:09 AM

John, thanks for clearing that. As a matter of fact, I think I attended one of the BFCC presentations of the T-Rex sequence. I was having doubts about this video-to-film transfer claim.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 21, 2009 04:46 AM

Could someone owning this title post here a couple (even more) of shots, please? I'm still thinking in buying it, but I'd like to see first what I will get. Thank you all for all help. I will appreciate it.

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Chip Gelmini
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posted July 21, 2009 11:21 AM

I got my copy through Steve Osborne in the USA about 2 years ago. It's definitely a German print lab new. It took a few months to receive it, and it did not have sound recorded. It was just under $800.00 (total) after the sound was done.

It is indeed an acetate print and came on 7 x 600 foot reels. The reel changes were a perfect match compared to the 35mm release prints - the cue dots original were on the ends of the reels for changeovers.

Sound dubbing was a problem due to the magnetic track applied to the print. The man who did the job for me just had trouble through his GS1200. I kept hearing that the heads had to be adjusted and tweaked.

The sound dubbing was terribly done and I have yet to have it redone and I will not be sending it back to the original recording person. First of all, it was NOT done in stereo sound as I instructed. It sounds as if the channels are reversed. Center channel dialogue for example, comes from my surrounds. This, being done in standard pro logic enhanced playback via two track with the 1200HD. And other 2 track prints in my collection sound just fine.

Unfortunately, it sounds best in 2 track mono via aux out from the 1200hd @ standard pro logic enhanced mode. And even still, there is one point in the movie that is normal discussion and it is echo playing through my system where it should sound normal.

And it is not my system because testing has been done using multiple 1200hd machines and the built in playback speaker and the problems as describe follow the print.

Color and contrast are superb in this print. I highly recommend the purchase however be aware of the problems that I have had with mine.

I would also like to say that, I am not the kind of person to slam another because they tried to help me and things didn't work out. So I choose not to release the name of the person who did the sound. I have also not let them know about this problem, so if they read this post they will find out for the very first time. I will let them choose to respond.

And by the way, just in case you are wondering, my copy is NOT for sale.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted July 21, 2009 04:22 PM

I think the Thread Starter (Gian)is looking for a copy for sale but not your problem. Why you Chip complaining your problem in this thread? [Eek!]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 21, 2009 04:28 PM

Thanks for all info.

My attention is now focused on a brand new copy. And I probably record it by myself.

I was just wondering if somebody had a couple of shots to post here, but no problem at all: I trust Chip saying the print has superb color and contrast.

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John Clancy
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posted July 22, 2009 02:42 AM

Phil Sheard at Classic should be able to supply a new copy.

My own print came with mono english sound but I re-recorded it into stereo. The stripes on mine were good but if I remember correctly I had a few drop-outs in a few places.

Chip, it's not unusual for stereo sound recorded on one machine to play havoc with a Dolby Stereo reproduction on another. Perhaps you could just try playing the film in stereo or mono and see what that's is like - generally it will sound superior to a duff Dolby decode anyway.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 22, 2009 02:54 AM

Hi John.
Phil already contacted.
Thanks a lot for all additional info.

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Chip Gelmini
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posted July 22, 2009 11:05 AM

Winbert

I didn't think I was complaining. Just saying how it turned out for me. That's all. It would have been nice to get a better recording.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted July 22, 2009 11:57 AM

Chip, because it clearly says that the film was originally supplied in silent from Germany, so this is not a problem. It is entirely your decision to ask someone to record it for you. If there is a problem with him you should make your own thread about this.

Or otherwise do it professionally which might be higher rates but with a better result.

peace,

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James N. Savage 3
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posted July 22, 2009 01:06 PM

Actually, I think its good to know of particular problems with prints, just for a heads-up, in case you might experience the same thing from a particular title.

I was wondering if it would make sense to buy a print with NO striping, and send it to EVT for striping? Honestly, they seem to have mastered the liquid and paste stripe, and I have been getting excellent recordings from thier stripes. It might be worth checking into, and the print would probably be cheaper without a stripe.

James.

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Osi Osgood
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posted July 22, 2009 03:36 PM

I agree with James.

I have noted that the German releases have had suspect sound stripe that can give variable results. Sometimes great, other times not so great.

I hope that your able to re-record it, ahhh, with a good Dolby Surround soundtrack!

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 22, 2009 07:11 PM

I hope to find someone who would like to buy a brand new copy as I would (I will probably buy mine silent).
Phil wrote me today. As I supposed, he takes orders into consideration only if he has to make two prints of the same title. So...

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John Clancy
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posted July 23, 2009 03:32 AM

I tell you what Gian, pop over to Cornwall and I'll run the print for you. Only I can't recall the last time I ran it with sound from stripe as it's almost a perfect sync' job with the PAL DVD.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 23, 2009 08:15 AM

Guys,
Phil wrote me once again today. He has a copy of JURASSIC PARK in stock so... I NOW HAVE IT! Thanks for your help.
[Razz]

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John Clancy
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posted July 24, 2009 03:30 AM

Excellent news! He's a good bloke that Mr. Sheard!

Let us all know what you think of your new purchase after first screening.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted July 24, 2009 08:19 AM

I will John. Thanks. [Big Grin]

Another question: is it in Scope?

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