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Simon McConway
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Doncaster, UK
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posted June 06, 2008 07:41 AM

The first projector I ever had which ignited my interest in cine was the Elmo E-80 standard 8. This projector has been mentioned before and written about on here by David Pannell. My original E-80 resides at another address, still within the family though. Anyway, last Sunday I spotted one for £15 (Buy It Now; Ebay) so purchased it. It's just arrived today, and looks in first class order. The gate brush and instructions were still in the original elmo poly bag, and the original "Kondo brand" lamp is fitted. I believe this machine has probably never had a new lamp. Cosmetically, this machine is excellent...I need to fit a new 13 amp plug before I can power it up. More to follow!

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David Pannell
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From: Horsham, West Sussex, UK
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posted June 06, 2008 07:57 AM

Most interested, Simon.

Please let us know how it performs, and if it has re-kindled your love of this super little machine!

(Remember, 500watt max lamp if running on 230/240v, or 750watt if you can get it running on 110/120v with a suitable transformer - infinitely more lumens)!

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Simon McConway
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posted June 06, 2008 08:45 AM

Yes, you are correct about the lamp. At the moment, the one fitted has a slight bulge on the glass, meaning it's probably at the end of it's life. It could do with a new Atlas A1/7 fitting! I will report later, but for £15, it's excellent.

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David Pannell
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posted June 06, 2008 09:03 AM

Simon, as you may remember, I have carried out many speed tests on all of my projectors with a calibrated stroboscope to ensure correct running speed.

Remember that if you run a bit too slowly, overheating can occur, and cause the lamp to bulge.

On the 3 E-80s which I now have, I have found that the speed is pretty consistent in all of them, and that 16fps is achieved with the speed control knob pointing to the red dot at the 11 o'clock position.

Of course, you have to ensure that the knob is correctly locked to the rheostat spindle first, and this is achieved by making sure that the minimum and maximum speed settings describe equal arc separation positions.

Just thought it might help!

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Simon McConway
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posted June 06, 2008 01:03 PM

David

Could you provide a picture/details of the correct threading of the thin cloth belt going around the shutter from the motor. This has come away from the shutter and the pulley associated with the clutch mechanism...need to see how it's threaded correctly, with the back removed.

Should you prefer to email smcconway @ hotmail dot com.

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David Pannell
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posted June 06, 2008 03:07 PM

Simon,

Will do!

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Simon McConway
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From: Doncaster, UK
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posted June 06, 2008 03:32 PM

Don't worry David...I've sorted the lacing of the belt. Next thing is that when using the clutch, the belt comes off! Any advice?

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David Pannell
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posted June 07, 2008 03:36 AM

Hi Simon,

Have sent you an e-mail!

Best regards,

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Simon McConway
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From: Doncaster, UK
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posted June 07, 2008 04:35 AM

The projector is clean and tidy, much better than the one I already have. Before I connected to the mains, I opened the base to find the transformer loose and not attached to the projector chassis as it should be. I've managed to do this (just) as the screws are not easy to reach. I wired a new 13 amp plug onto the lead, and the machine whirred into life. The original lamp still works well, and after a few minutes' use, the machine was even quieter. I wonder how many of today's digital projectors will be capable of doing that after about 30 years of non-use? All that is left to do is fix this clutch problem and I thank David for his advice here. What years were these machines produced between?

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David Pannell
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posted June 07, 2008 05:18 AM

According to Jurgen Lossau's "bible" on projectors, the E-80 was produced between 1951 and 1958/9.

The F-80 came out in 1959 and I think carried on till 1962.

However, for me, there is something special about the E-80, over and above the F-80. Can't actually put my finger on it though, as the F-80 was supposed to supersede the E-80 as a better machine. It is certainly more robust and almost over engineered, but for me it just doesn't seem to quite have the character of the E-80.

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Dave.

Valves and celluloid - a great combination!
Early technology rules OK!

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Nick Hancock
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From: Edinburgh, UK
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posted February 03, 2011 04:22 PM

I have an Elmo E-80 but it has no bulb. Can you give me any advice on what bulb I need and where I might source one? Thanks.

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Simon McConway
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posted February 05, 2011 04:25 AM

I have sent you an email.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted February 05, 2011 05:46 PM

Nick,

Welcome to the Forum!

Simon,

Just for future reference: The 110v Elmo E-80 takes a DDB 750w bulb. What would the code be for the 230v 500w bulb as David suggests?

Doug

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