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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 21, 2011 09:54 AM

Osi, I knew you were asking somewhere if Technicolor printing did exist on Super 8mm .

I cannot answer it, but I found a very old post (2003 !!) that John Whistle says:

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The major labs (Technicolor, CFI, Movielab, etc) didn't get into the 8mm game until the late 1960s after the introduction of Super8. It also marked a big difference in printing. The introduction of the Continous Optical Reduction Printer which used a 16mm negative and made direct reduction to two up (on 16mm wide stock) or four up (on 35mm wide stock)Super8 prints.

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So it may be the answer to your question.

cheers,

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 21, 2011 10:25 AM

I am hoping to run into an authentic one sooner or later.

As you and I discussed at an earlier time, some state that they have one or two. A german collector states that he has a technicolot optical sound print of "El Dorado" (John Wayne flick, for those who might not know).

Technicolor marketed optical super 8 features in those technicolor cartridges that many of us in the collecting world have seen or owbned or presently own, but quite often, those prints within the cartridges were actually eastman prints and not technicolor.

I hold out hopes however, of finding one. ThanX 4 the info!

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 21, 2011 10:31 AM

Yes, when you received those carts, please let us know here what quality they are.

Just be really careful when opening that Technicolor box (shell), I got really a painful problem because there was no reel inside. Imagine that 400' film length was just scattered around the floor and took 1 hour to spool it back to a 400' normal reel.

Good luck for your next arrival films. [Wink]

cheers

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Winbert

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Terry Lagler
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posted March 21, 2011 01:12 PM

was it a box like this?

Got one of these on Ebay a while back with Abbott and Costello vs Frankenstein on it.

Mine almost ended up on the floor! did manage to get it on a reel without too much problem though.

Cheers
Terry

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 21, 2011 01:18 PM

Actually, the box was different for the South African companies, but the same cartridges within.

Back then, they had a special tool which made opening them quite easy, but I don't happen to have one.

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Bill Brandenstein
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posted March 21, 2011 02:04 PM

Some of these cartridges passed through my hands a few years ago, and any color prints were faded to red. Sound was mag. NOT IB Tech by a long shot!

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted March 21, 2011 02:11 PM

I got a print of Blue Water White Death. I came in 4 cartridges. Took me forev3r to get it on reels. The color is fantastic but the sound is optical. I only have magnetic. Anybody interestecd in it?

Pat DAlessio

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 21, 2011 02:29 PM

Pat, I might be interested.

When you say the color is fantastic, how do you describe that.

It is Kodak SP warming (brownish side) or AGFA/LPP standard (where all colors are present).

cheers,

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 22, 2011 12:38 PM

I'm betting that it's either Eastman or early Kodak SP.

The reason why is this is one of the prints that John T was selling a few months back on here, and John informed me that this company stopped making acepting or marketing these cartridge films as of 1979.

Now, being that they stopped as of 1979, there is a chance that it could be early Kodak SP (which means that it may have held up very well, as I have noted that early Kodak SP has tended to hold up better than later Kodak SP) ...

but it is much more likely that it is eastman, but that mid seventies eastman tends to hold it's color very well. Look at many of those mid to late seventies Elvis prints that still maintain sparkling colors.

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David Kilderry
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posted March 23, 2011 07:29 AM

There were no dye imbibition (I.B.) Techicolor prints made in Super 8 or 70mm, only 16mm and 35mm.

David

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