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Michael O'Regan
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posted January 08, 2012 04:56 AM

Are these titles really so rare?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-8-HORROR-FILM-COLLECTION-SUPER-8mm-SOUND-RARE-ONES-/270888552830?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_OtherFormats_GL&hash=item3f1237497e#ht_1090wt_1185

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Mark Mander
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posted January 08, 2012 06:37 AM

Hi Michael,
I wouldn't say these were rare as you do see them quite often up for sale,The price is high for them but ebay is always a surprise these days,Mark.

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Michael O'Regan
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posted January 08, 2012 12:39 PM

Hi Mark,

I'm not a huge S8 collector so maybe I'm incorrect but, aren't those just Universal-8 repackaging of the Castle cutdowns?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 08, 2012 01:26 PM

Mike of you meant by repacking was to put those Castle prints inside new boxes, the answer is no.

Based my experience shaows many Abbot & Costello in U8 box have dupey quality compared to Castle prints which are always pin sharp.

Regarding the above auction I should say they are not rare but highly sought by both collector and non. Just if he listed them in individual listings with low starting price I believe he would be able to reach the starting amount he put now.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted January 08, 2012 01:35 PM

Mike

They are all 400' digests and sound. Individually he may get $25-@40.00 pounds or less. I would think that the price is right for all 7 but when you convert to USD it's high to me. I think is USD they would sell for $20-30.00 or more. But when you convert the GNP to USA that's more like $40.00-60.00 which is high.

Pat

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Michael O'Regan
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posted January 08, 2012 01:47 PM

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Mike of you meant by repacking was to put those Castle prints inside new boxes, the answer is no.

I wasn't suggesting the seller had just put them in new boxes - just that these were later re-releases of the Castles.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 08, 2012 03:09 PM

Sorry Mike, as a non English speaker, I didn't get the meaning of "just" you used in the post. For me "just" = "only" meaning U8 is only Castle in different box but is the same in terms of print quality.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted January 08, 2012 03:55 PM

Michael,

As Pat said these are the 400' editions. These long versions were released only after Castle became U-8. I agree with Winbert...not rare but popular.

Doug

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Michael O'Regan
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posted January 08, 2012 04:53 PM

No problem, Winbert.
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Osi Osgood
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posted January 08, 2012 07:27 PM

In some cases, these U8 releases had previously unreleased material (the Marx Brother titles come to mind, as "Duck Soup" was only released, by Casle Films as "This is War, at 8 minutes, and U8 400ft digest was 18 minutes) ...

However, I couldn't tell you as to what footage mayt or may not be new in each release.

I do agree that in many cases, the U8 prints were not of as high of quality as the castle releases of the same title.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 25, 2012 09:50 PM

Mike,

This below link is just recently completed auctions for many Universal 8 films (horror genre):

Universal 8: Horror genre

As you can see, even the top 3 films were sold above $110!!.

So the UK link above has also a potential to be sold for the price he/she asked if he listed them individually.

cheers,

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 26, 2012 03:32 PM

Using my rarity rate systems, those U-8 horror is 2

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