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Topic: "Scrooge" (1935)
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 21, 2012 01:42 PM
I may have asked this before, but was the 1935 version of a Christmas Carol, entitled "Scrooge", ever released on super 8 and, if so, was it in it's full version of 78 minutes, or the shortened version of 61 minutes?
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 22, 2012 05:47 PM
I personally like this version for it's photogrphy. There are a lot of neat moments. For instance, during the ghost of Christmas future, you see Scrooges face superimposed on his shadow! Nice shot. It also has an almost German impressionistic (or is that expressionistic? I get that confused) way with the photography at times.
It's a darker version of the tale, as a general rule, but then, that's why I like it.
Your right about the DVD/Blu-ray versions. There is restord version, and it does look pretty darned good for a film that has largely not aged well, but the problem is that they only used the 60 minute version and not the 78 minute version, which was a "reel" letdown for me.
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 23, 2012 01:15 PM
Most correct Micheal!
It was released in the US for educational purposes. This is true with the silent classic "Lost World" which was shortened somewhat for classrooms.
I'd love to see the people who released the restoration at 60 minutes, go back at it, get a decent 35MM of the full length print, and restore those 18 or so minutes! THEN, I'll buy it.
By the way, for those who would like to, this 78 minute version can be downloaded off of the "Internet Archive" to your computer! Just type in "ask.com" ...
Scrooge (1935) internet archive download
... and it'll take you right to the site, (it should) and it has various levels of digital quality, from a couple hundred Megabyte Mpeg4 version, to a Mpeg2 3 gigabyte version!
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 23, 2012 01:46 PM
Hey! extra, most curious info!
I looked up on the internet to see which is the best or most preferred version. I ended up with the "Image Entertainment" version.
However, when I read up on the info down below, this was a collaboration of Image Entertainment and the BLACKHAWK film collection!
So, apparantly, the Blackhawk Film collection has this print in thier collection, which then leads me to wonder if, at some point in they're history, Blackhawk films DID release this, in either Standard 8mm or super 8mm?
I would hope that it might have made it onto standard 8mm from Blackhawk, as thye're standard 8mm feature prints tend to be of a better quality than most of they're super 8 fe4ature prints.
So now, an additional question, (if someone might be paying attention to this post other than us three or four), did Blackhawk in fact release this on super 8 or standard 8mm? Would someone per chance have a copy of an old Blackhawk catalogue listing it?
This would certainly be an advatageous release for Blackhawk to have done at some point, being that it is a part of thier collection.
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