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Moshe Yitzhak
Expert Film Handler

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From: Israel
Registered: Aug 2011


 - posted June 11, 2013 03:41 AM      Profile for Moshe Yitzhak   Email Moshe Yitzhak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hwllo,

Wanted to know whats the D stands for?

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Maurice Leakey
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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
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 - posted June 11, 2013 04:10 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The DM has an f1.3 lens, whereas the M has the faster f1.1.
I believe this is the only difference.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
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 - posted June 11, 2013 04:19 AM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Looking on super8data it looks like a natural progression as they made improvements. I think the first model I had was ST1200MO. If you look at the pictures they were some changes, loop restorer and frame were moved.

I only sold it to get the GS1200 I really wish I had kept it now.

The only word that springs to mind is Deluxe.

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Tom Photiou
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 - posted June 11, 2013 06:16 AM      Profile for Tom Photiou     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What do you think if the GS?

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Lee Bombard
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From: Santa Clarita, CA, USA
Registered: May 2013


 - posted June 11, 2013 08:10 AM      Profile for Lee Bombard   Email Lee Bombard   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Isn't there also a difference in the brightness of the bulb as well as differences in the audio output?

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David Ollerearnshaw
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From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012


 - posted June 11, 2013 02:37 PM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tom, I like the GS, although I have not used all its functions, I have used it for recording my own films. It did have too many functions I suppose, the slow motion maybe. The first thing I learned with both ST & GS keep the film path clean after every reel.

When I was first starting out in film I looked at Eumig's Heurtier's ELMO's maybe Noris and a couple of others. I don't think the Beaulieu 708 was out when I bought the GS.

Some of the I looked at projectors were, let's just say a load of crap.

The reason for ELMO was 1200ft reels, optical sound and it seemed very well built. It also had 150w light, although some of the others proberly did too. The same with the GS except 200w light.

When I made recordings on my own shot films the sound was fantastic.

I used to go to the local old folks home one a month to give a show the GS always performed well. Used to hire from FDA, Columbia and Rank. They always enjoyed the shows.

Due to the throw I bought the 25mm-50mm f1.4 the GS still produced a fantastic picture, possibly looking even sharper. I have also f1.0 f1.3 lens too.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012


 - posted June 11, 2013 03:43 PM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
The Elmo STs were a great little machine for larger film presentation,they had a very good light output, you could fill a living room wall with a very watchable picture.The sound repro
was also very good,the recording was beautifully simple and
easy to use.The failing, and it was a serious one,was the use of
the horrible plastic fittings that eventually wore and spoiled film.
That said,they were also extremely reliable,and to my mind, a far
better machine than Elmo's flagship, the GS1200.

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