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Steve Klare
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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted November 13, 2013 07:00 PM

I've been diddling around with homemade anamorphic mounts for years now, and am finally to the point I'm thinking of going for a commercial one: maybe watching my 'scope films more as a result.

FFR-film has the bracket shown in this webpage:

Elmo GS 1200 & ST 1200 Anamorphic Holder

for about 75 Euros

Wittner has this one:

Anamorphotenhalter STA-02

for 99 Euros and I believe Steve Osborne has it stateside for $150.

Can anybody comment on the merits of the two of these?

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Graham Ritchie
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posted November 13, 2013 10:59 PM

Steve
Is it worth looking out for an old 35mm Scope lens, as they should be at give away prices at the moment, due to all the digital conversions going on and make up some kind of bracket for it. If you can get one cheap enough to try, it might work.

Graham.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted November 14, 2013 02:30 AM

Steve
I am sorry to pour cold water on Graham's advice. The great majority of anamorphics from 35mm cinema use will not focus down sufficiently for use in the home. This is why there is a glut of them on eBay, they are of little use. Not only that, they are often quite large beasts and would present a problem in fixing.

As I have said only very recently, an anamorphic for Super 8 or 16mm is going to cost quite a lot as they are in great demand.

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted November 14, 2013 02:38 AM

I bought the Wittner ST-02 one and only one thing I don't like about it. It's the screw to mount it on the projector. It should have been made to not fall out, as you need to screw on the "nut" (correct word?)

Other than that, it's perfect and sturdy

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Maurice Leakey
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posted November 14, 2013 04:49 AM

Vidar
It is called a "knurled head thumb screw", meaning that you can use your finger and thumb to tighten, no need for a wrench/spanner. They should have a screwed thread with no thread near its head, this keeps them from falling out, they are then called "captive".

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted November 14, 2013 05:19 AM

But you need a spanner to remove it, if you fasten it that much

Like these

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Steve Klare
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posted November 14, 2013 05:53 AM

Well,

My situation is I already have the lens, I just need to mount it properly, consistently and easily.

Since my "German" is a litle thin, I'm not 100% sure, but it looks to me that if I have a lens smaller than 62.5mm I'd also need to buy an adapter ring for the Wittner mount.

True?

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Vidar Olavesen
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posted November 14, 2013 06:13 AM

I believe so, yes

This is Google translate
Anamorphotenhalter STA-02
for ELMO ST-1200 and GS-1200 (diameter 62.5 mm)
In form and finish to match best of this series.
If using thread (already available on all projectors) accurately and securely fastened (thumbscrew included).
Suitable for Rathenower Rectimascop and all other anamorphic lenses ø 62.5 mm. For anamorphic ø52, 5mm or ø42, 5 - please 43mm adapter ring No. 4601 and 4602 ordered separately. The figure shows the holder with adapter ring No. 4,601th View of the back here, view of the assembled holder here, with view Rectimascop anamorphic (not supplied) here. • sturdy aluminum / stainless steel construction
• fine finish in black anodizing
• reliable and gentle clamping of the anamorphic
• CNC-machined, 100% made in Germany

No. 1063 - (83.19 EUR net) 99.00 EUR gross

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Patrick Walsh
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posted November 14, 2013 03:15 PM

I've ordered a scope lens holder from Steve Osbourne, I just supplied the size/type of scope lens I have and the bracket will come with the appropriate sleeve.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted November 14, 2013 03:52 PM

I can vouch for the Wittner lens holder. Very well made, perfect for the Elmoscope II with the proper adapter ring. I've been using it for many years.

As far as 35mm lenses are concerned, the more recent Schneider glasses start focusing at 10ft, they are short, not too heavy but have a 70.6mm diameter. Finding a holder for that is tough, unless you can build one.

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Joe Taffis
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posted November 14, 2013 04:06 PM

Pat, I'm sure you'll be happy with it. Like JM, I've been using an STA-02 for many years. I bought mine from Wittner's before Steve Osborne had them here in the U.S. One screw holds it in place, and once you get the inner ring snug around your particular scope lens, you don't need to adjust it again. You just slip your scope lens in or out....

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