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Topic: Do films depreciate in value?
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted January 13, 2017 06:47 AM
Doug's right, it's worth what people will pay, however, here is my own guide,
iwouldnt pay more than,
200ft £20/25 max
400ft, no more than 50 max but average 20/25
features depend on the title, no matter how much i want a full length film there is a limit of around 250/300. I'm not an idiot, no matter how much i love film there is absolutely nothing wrong with projecting a good blu ray and at an average cost of £10 it makes paying over a grand, (as many titles command), seem utterly banana's.
Film prices may well go full circle and be worth very little, who know's, i see many well respected collectors of many years selling prints on, if you are an avid collector and love cine why would you do this unless its "i'll make my money now before they become worthless"?
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Panayotis A. Carayannis
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 969
From: Athens,Greece
Registered: Jul 2008
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posted January 14, 2017 01:59 AM
As most everybody agrees,it depends on how much you want the film and how much you are willing to pay! I have never paid over $ 200 for a feature except for two occasions.I paid $250 for THE QUIET MAN,new print, in the good old days and 250 pounds for a 2nd hand GONE WITH THE WIND. For silent one reelers,no more than $20,or $25 for sound ones. But there was an exception.I was looking for a most rare excerpt from a feature. I had ordered it from thew original distributor,in the good old days,but he closed his company down and I never got it,or my money back! It never appeared in any 2nd hand lists. Only once did it appear on ebay a few years ago. I bid for it, but at the last moments I fell asleep !!! at 3 o'clock in the morning and I lost it.It sold for $70 and I would have paid that much.I wanted it very much! So, there are always exceptions to the rules!
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted January 14, 2017 10:42 AM
There are a couple of titles i am after and, as i said, i will pay a reasonable good sum for them, (guess what one of them is ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ), putting into perspective, the few films we bought new, The full feature of the Longest Yard was £166,Gone ith the wind was projected once, that was £320, (bearing in mind this is now on 4 1200ft spools), The Texas Chainsaw massacre, 4 x 400ft cost me £99 brand new, so the extreme price of T2 with green scratched in comparison seems nuts.
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 15, 2017 05:18 AM
I think there are still enough of us about here, and elsewhere, who are both still hopefully young enough and knowledgeable enough to see the problems through.
Machines like the ST1200 for example, are a very simplistic design by concept with excellent build quality and durable components. The only real issues is either obtaining the necessary parts or better still, a full spares machine to keep at least one good running m/c for a further few decades at the very least.
Most of the skills required to fix a projector, motor car or even FMCG machinery, can be learned just through experience of using and understanding these things, then by developing good troubleshooting skills often through some trial and error, a logical thought process outlook,some basic test equipment and some decent hand tools and skills.
Reading any service manuals for our machines always always hugely accelerates one's knowledge and understanding as does discussion and sharing knowledge among other like minded individuals.
It is also important to collect as much information as possible from your machine while it is running well so you know what values you should have when things are not quite as should be.
Voltage test points, torque values, speed calibration etc etc
For those sincerely interested in offering themselves as a resource, the minimum criteria would be to obtain some decent electrical test equipment, optical or mechanical tachometer,a small range of spring balances,soldering equipment and a wide range of decent hand tools. A workshop area is always of course, hugely advantageous.
If you see the E.V.E. set up,through their video tutorials etc, these are the benchmark standards if at all possible.
[ January 15, 2017, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
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