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Topic: Use microphone with Super 8
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Luigi Castellitto
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 715
From: Campobasso, Italy
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 25, 2017 10:43 AM
Hello, I have a PC microphone, bought at pc components store, which I wanted to use on my RE-Erno 904 NF and on my Elmo ST-600 D M 2-track (both have a 3,5 mm jack connector for mic) but it does not work. I don't understand about electronics problems, why does it happen? And what microphone should I buy to use it on the two machines? Only a "vintage" microphone?
P.S. I tried a Philips EL3797/50 mic with Din 5 pin/Din 3 pin---->3,5mm jack adapter, it does not work either; on both, on editor viewer and on projector.
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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 25, 2017 12:01 PM
Luigi,
Number of variables here: First, which kind of PC mic did you get? It may be designed to be powered by the computer since it is made for computer use; thus it won't work in a conventional set-up.
Secondly, find a way to verify that the mini-plug inputs on your projector and viewer actually work, unless you are sure they do already (at which point skip the following): If you don't have an old mic to test with, feed the "headphone out" audio from, say, a CD player or cassette deck AT VERY LOW LEVEL into the mic inputs for a few moments just to make sure they are getting sound. It won't sound pretty, most likely distorted, but at least you'll know the inputs work.
Generally, you want to use a good-quality mic, not necessarily a "vintage" or a package mic from a Super-8 projector. I have tested the mic that comes with the Elmo ST-1200 and it is not very good for anything.
The idea is to send as high quality sound as possible into the viewer/projector as you can, as the sound recording on those devices is ok at best. Check this one out. It is a short "hyper-cardioid" shotgun that is powered internally with an AA battery, and it has the benefit of isolating sound from the equipment when recording with it, provided you get a bit of distance from the projector/viewer. (I have its bigger brother, the AT 875)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/664440-REG/Audio_Tech nica_ATR6550_ATR6550_Condenser_Shotgun_Microphone.html
It is not a "studio-grade" mic from what people say, but it would be a good step up from the cheap included mics of years past.
Good luck with this. Claus.
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Luigi Castellitto
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 715
From: Campobasso, Italy
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted December 25, 2017 02:11 PM
Thank you, boys! I had tested the mic inputs with a source that I usually use for AUX on viewer/projector (from PC, that I usually use to record on magnetic stripe of film) and everything works, the audio arrives, even if distorted, of course.
I also had a shotgun mic, but I can not find it in my home, anymore. I think I buy a type like that again, also for use with camera and dat or cassette recorder.
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