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Topic: Empire Strikes Back Part 2, for sale on ebay
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted October 07, 2011 12:47 PM
Hello folks ...
Since I just acquired an "Empire Strikes Back part 2" in LPP, (thanx Chris!), I'm now selling my Kodak SP print of this title
on ebay.
Please note: as stated in the ebay sale, the screenshots that I am using are not from the print we are selling, as my wife and I are terrible at making screenshots. She's never tried and my few attempts have been horrendous.
Therefore, I asked our own John if we could use his screenshots that he has placed up here on this forum for our auction. As our print is either dead on in color to the screenshots, or the slightest amount off.
By the way, while I will do a complete review comparing the different issues of this Empire Strikes Back digest in the neqar future, I find it interesting that, while the Kodak SP will eventually brown, the overall color quality is actually better than that found on the LPP copy. The LPP copy is very blue and unfortunately, has the residue of the blue screen process for space shots rather prominent. The same shots on the Kodak SP, while the slightest bit brown, have literally no "boxing" on the ships. That, and the earlier SP prints have less grain than the later LPP.
So, long lasting color with LPP, but more grain and bluish. It's kind of a trade off.
BY the way, the auction starts at 29.99, but that is a great price for a great color print.
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted October 09, 2011 05:47 PM
Thanks for the link Chris. I'm actually rather sad that my wife listed it now. I've been comparing the scenes where Yoda teaches luke, and the facial tones are off (on the LPP print) and especially Yoda looks terribly blue (in the LPP) but the Kodak SP has very natural tones. If it wasn't for the slight browning, I would have kept this one.
It's just my thoery, but I think that the problem (especially in part 1) with the brownish blacks, is due to bad processing or original source material tha wasn't completely color corrected for release.
The original asteroid scene, (in part 1) in the original release, actually ha a slightly brwonish tint to the color. I noted this in both the first letterboxed laserdisc edition Empire as well as that wonderful deluxe CAV edition of the uncorrected trilogy, (well, actually, there was the upgrade of the soundtrack and the original film elements were cleaned of dirt and debris, but no color correction), that scene has brownish space.
Also, it should be remembered that the earliest prints of the "Empire" digests were taken from pre-release film material, as the German part 1 digest has "December 12th 1979", a good six months until the actual release, and no doubt color correction was done before it was officially released. This is also why the digests have a little bit of different dialogue or different "takes" of certain dialogue.
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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