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Adam Deierling
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posted February 27, 2012 11:07 AM

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"The Never Ending Story" 600' Derann SCOPE/STEREO/LPP. Anyone interested? I have acquired a second copy and don't really need two. Comes in original box! Looking to get $150 OBO. I know this is a rare one that doesn't come up for sale very often. onedelorean@yahoo.com

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Osi Osgood
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posted February 27, 2012 01:18 PM

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I can vouch for this being a very good digest. I have the stereo version of this as well, and soundtrack has some very good use of the stereo spectrum to it, (for instance, when the pieces are falling off of the "Goddesses" and you hear the pieces falling on either side ... nice.)

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Adam Deierling
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posted February 27, 2012 04:57 PM

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Here is a youtube clip of my film. I did this last night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIfWxJtY1cA

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posted February 27, 2012 05:26 PM

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Adam...it is amazing transfer...less flickers. Did you use 24 fps camera. Can you tell me what camera and the setting please.

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Adam Deierling
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posted February 27, 2012 06:13 PM

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I used my Canon XH-A1. The trick is to shoot at 24fps and a shutter speed of 1/24.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted February 27, 2012 10:42 PM

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Adam, thanks for the info.

Can you do me a favor to shoot with the same camera for "Alien" that you got from the Netherlands please..... You know the history of this reel.... I am curios to know what is the quality of this film.

thanks

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Adam Deierling
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posted February 27, 2012 11:08 PM

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I will see what I can do.

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Chris Fries
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posted February 28, 2012 12:56 AM

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Adam,

Good luck if you try to post ALIEN on Youtube. I tried to post mine and it got blocked worldwide. The only one I know of there is this excerpt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjQ6e6-7EY

Also, I have to say that your copy of "The Neverending Story" is gorgeous! If I had a scope lens for the Chinon 1200 and an extra $150 lying around, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I'm trying to same some money so I can get a camera like yours. I would love to be able to post super 8 film on Youtube flicker-free.

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posted February 28, 2012 09:19 AM

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Chris, try once more to upload your "Alien" but for this time make the title in different ways, e.g "Ailen" or just simple "A digest from Ken Films Catalog # F-xxx". [Wink]

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posted February 28, 2012 11:29 AM

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Winbert,

Thanks for the suggestion but I have already tried that. When I first started posting film on Youtube I would use the title "Super 8mm Digest #__" for each one. There was nothing in the descriptions to indicate what the films were. Some of them still got blocked anyway. So, I decided that if I were to continue posting films, I would call them by name. If anything gets blocked, I remove it so I can post videos that are longer than 15 min.

The weird thing is I had already posted "ALIEN" once before. I had recorded my old library copy on VHS 25 years ago. I put the video up on Youtube and all I got was a "Matched third party content". I removed the old video before I posted the new one and that got completely blocked.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted February 28, 2012 11:36 AM

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WOW! What a beautiful copy of that film. And the transfer is extraordinary. One of the best I have seen.

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Akshay Nanjangud
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posted February 28, 2012 01:26 PM

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Excellent print and extraordinary transfer. Superb!

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Rob Young.
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posted February 28, 2012 04:42 PM

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OK, so Mr. Grumpy here, but this post was to sell his film...so far, the usual umpteen responses about everything BUT being interested in buying it!!!

Really, isn't the best place for this in the review section...I'd find nothing more annoying than putting a print up for sale and getting excited about seeing loads of posts; only to find thay all say, "yes, I have this one, it is great, etc!!!" Doh!

BTW; that is a good transfer in that it doesn't flicker, but it is soft and the sound is awful...WOW tastic!

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posted February 28, 2012 05:29 PM

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only to find thay all say, "yes, I have this one, it is great, etc!!!" Doh!

Rob, sometime those unnecessary comments are good for the benefit of the sell, as this forum has a rule about bumping your own post. By having such comments this post will be on the top of the list rather than sinking in the middle of hundred posts. Mind that...!

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Rob Young.
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posted February 28, 2012 07:52 PM

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Hmm, yes, Winbert, I see what you mean...

But many members here know each other enough not to "bump"...

I wish we could discuss prints before someone puts one up for sale?

Surely there is nothing constructive in replying to a "I have this for sale" with "I have one also!"

???? [Confused]

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Adam Deierling
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posted February 28, 2012 09:39 PM

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Thanks for trying to help a guy out Rob. I honestly don't mind. the fact that people are talking about it can only help me sell it. As far as the sharpness of the transfer...i blame my scope lens. i can never seem to get it any sharper and its a good Elmoscope. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The audio was kinda crappy because my camera wanted to keep boosting the audio and wasn't letting me compensate. The actual print is great picture and sound.

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Rob Young.
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posted February 28, 2012 11:21 PM

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Adam, I know this print well and was running it new in the mid 1980's...I know it's a lovely print and I wish you the very best with your sale.

Maybe my comments sounded harsh, but we all here should be striving to present super 8 to it's very best. You've done a great job in transferring it to video and presenting it on YouTube in order to aid your sale (copyright issues aside).

What makes me slighty annoyed is that you've had loads of responses commenting upon the "quality" of the film (and I'm sure you'd admit yourself that the YouTube version in no way does justice to the actual print) without anyone expressing actual interest in buying it.

The issues with sharpness and sound are topics that we could discuss in the forum...surely what this community is all about?

I don't think it's a great advertisement for super 8 when people here are "oohhing" and "arrhhhing" over the kind of YouTube quality that anyone with a £20.00 DVD player and a £50.00 pocket projector would laugh out of the room.

That's not to say that your print wouldn't blow them away when shown at home on the big screen (I'm sure it would)...and therefore I wish you the best of luck with your sale...but, please guys, let's stop responding to screen shots or YouTube versions of super 8 prints with admiration. It's ridiculous.

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posted February 29, 2012 01:35 PM

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Hey! It's snowing today!

(there's one for "grumpy drawers"!) [Wink]

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Rob Young.
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posted February 29, 2012 03:04 PM

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LOL!

That's me! [Wink]

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Unless you mean it's snowing on your latest super 8 print...that isn't snow...that's neg dust...that would be awful...like the "nothing" coming to smother our beloved prints...argghhh!

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posted March 02, 2012 12:58 PM

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Agreed! I hate white "flecks" on the screen! I have a low fade print of "Cobweb Hotel" (Fleischer cartoon), and while the color is as good as you could ask for, (better than I have seen elsewhere), the negative they used was TERRIBLY worn!

Meanwhile ...

Have you been able to sell your "Neverending Story?"

By the way, I watched that video you posted and you did a splendid job on it, even incorporating the stereo soundtrack! I really lucked out when I bought my copy of this. When I got it, I found one of those intro's on the beginning which states, "A Scope and Stereo Presentation", which was really neat! It runs about 30 seconds or so and the funny thing is that the stereo on that first clip is much better than on Neverending Story, with very crisp high end to it.

If no one has snapped it up, you ought to grab it folks, it's a great digest!

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Adam Deierling
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posted March 02, 2012 01:08 PM

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Still not sold. I am actually going to send it out to be re-recorded. I noticed that the stereo audio is not all that great on my copy. I have two and so going to have both re-done by vintage Cinemas in LA. They have done great work for me in the past. It's in good hands.

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Joe Taffis
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posted March 02, 2012 01:42 PM

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Hi Adam, I'd like to get my copy re-recorded to stereo. How much does that place charge, do they have the stereo soundtrack for the 600 footer already there and edited? thanks

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Adam Deierling
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posted March 02, 2012 01:50 PM

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They charge $0.71 per running minute. I actually had to edit the track myself. I do video editing for a living so it was no problem. Actually, if you ask me I think its cleaner then the original. Uploading the full think to youtube with new track. Will post soon.

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James N. Savage 3
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posted March 03, 2012 06:32 AM

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Hi-

Ok, please forgive me, but I can't hold back any longer,

THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PRINT AND A TERRIFIC TRANSFER!!!!!

Whew. Feel better now. Sorry Rob [Wink]

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Rob Young.
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posted March 03, 2012 06:36 AM

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LOL!

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