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Topic: Mickeys Memerable Moments
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 14, 2012 01:32 PM
Yep! Great print as expected!
Winbert should be given a little credit here. I have heard from other collectors that, given the right (wrong) circumstances, Fuji can certainly fade, but I wonder if that is more due to processing than anything else. I also had a fuji film stock print of "Hoppity Goes to Town" (earlier 70'
s Derann print) and that print certainly has a purplish cast ...
... however, as a general rule, Fuji has held up very well, as is also evident from his screenshots!
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 14, 2012 02:55 PM
Tom, your second picture is better than the previous. I trust your print will sell. Good luck.
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I have some of their ex llibrary hire prints (features) in
std 8mm sound that were printed on reversal
Hugh, I am afraid those prints were made to order (one of a kind print). I could not see a point not to use negative for mass production.
Osi, regarding Bucks Lab, I, in fact, has opened a special thread to warn this so newbies will not be mislead.
Buying film from UK (Bucks Lab) doesn't always mean good color
You can read Gian's statement there:
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I do confirm all prints by Buck Lab are not excellent, though I found lot of them on very good Fuji still holding up very good color (eventually fading in future)
Now about Fuji prints, as Gian also stated it will fade in the future eventually, we now are questioning when is that "future".
I have a theory that Fuji has a shelf time of 30-35 years not to fade. And after that it will start fade.
Most of Fuji stocks were used in 1978-1980 and 30 - 35 years is around these years. To a certain, Kevin F (along time UK member) has reported somewhere that he found all his Disney (printed on Fuji) has faded to purple now.
So anyone can now check their prints if they are still beauty like used to be or fade.
I concur with Kevin that my Fuji stock has now faded. Beware: The fade is sudden, not graduate. So if you see last year was still good, not necessarily now.
My theory says that the shelf time is like shelf life on food or medicine, it has certain period of time that they are just good like the first time, but after the shelf time is passed, it will change dramatically.
Not so good for us the collector, but that is the reality.
cheers
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Winbert
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2012 04:30 PM
Well regarding the Std 8mm col prints on reversal,I can only guess
that Derek had the chance to print direct from a 16mm or 35mm
print to 8mm without the intermediates that he would have had to use if using S/8.The number of prints was usually four in the library,I remember him saying about splitting the film into the
required widths to give him his feature.I have some of Bucks labs
films,and haven't seen any difference just yet.The Fuji problem has
been around on 16mm for sometime,but I haven't encountered it yet.Part of the equation must be climate and/or what are we
putting on the film as a preservative or lubricant.Some of my earliest col film on std 8mm shows no sign of fade,"Jason" is
still great colour,as is "Sinbad" except for the first two parts
which were poor to start with.Just as a query,if some folks are
using WD40 as a lubricant,this stuff is used to ease rusted
parts,surely that has got to be detrimental to sound stripe
which is oxide?
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted May 15, 2012 12:55 PM
Quite frankly Winbert ANY film stock will eventually fade, and that includes our precious LPP and AGFA prints, so to say that they are low fade and will not fade is not really true.
We just don't know when they will fade. LPP hasn't faded YET, but what year will be the "magic" year when one pops up with fade. The same can be said for Agfa that, though I do not have a afaded Agfa print, someday they will fade. Perhaps 50 years? 70 years? If so, I will happily have them for many years to come ...
but everything WILL fade eventually.
Therefore, the best thing to do is simply store your films well, in a cool dry place. As I have often stated, I take my Eastman "el-fado" prints and place them in freezer bags with two or three selica gel packs, and keep them in a frost free fridge, and I haven't had a single one fade yet ...
... However, I did do an experiment with two eastman stocks of the same vintage and same stock number (eastman 22), one of which was left in the house at the average 72 degrees and one in the fridge, (the print left out was a film that I really didn't care if it faded) ...
... and sure enough, the eastman 22 that was left out at 72 degrees is certainly losing its color. The Eastman 22 in the fridge is still spot on.
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