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Hans van der Sloot
Master Film Handler

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From: the Netherlands
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posted July 16, 2009 02:58 AM

The add says:

"This projector differs from a normal CL 16 it has been upgraded with added Tone control and fitted with a 2 channel graphic equaliser for stereophonic sound output"

Sounds great, but unfortunately the picture isn't very good.
Great price too.
Anybody ever seen an Elmo 16-CL with such a conversion?

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Martin Jones
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posted July 16, 2009 03:03 AM

What "ad(vert?)" is this, Hans?
If my information is correct, 16CL is mag/opt, not Stereo?
A "two channel(?) graphic equaliser" can't make it stereo.
Martin

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Hans van der Sloot
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posted July 16, 2009 03:09 AM

Stupid, I forgot the link:

http://cgi.ebay.nl/Elmo-CL-16-16mm-Optical-Sound-Cine-Film-Projector_W0QQitemZ170356714967QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Photography_VintagePhotography_VintagePhotoAccessories?hash=item27aa 0d2dd7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1399%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted July 16, 2009 03:25 AM

All the 16CL's have a tone control or at least all the ones I have seen.

The stereo equalizer add on was sold by an independant company but I can remember who. Can anyone remember?

Kev.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted July 19, 2009 07:36 AM

We all know that there were a few attempts at "stereo-izing" 16mm but it was never really marketed.
As Kev confirms, all CL, AL, AA, CX and XP models have tone controls.
The model pictured on Ebay looks like a regular CL.
That conversion feels like a simple sound splitter from the line out. This is what I use to feed the sound to my Dolby processor. It's not stereo but it's hifi dual-mono.

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Joe McAllister
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From: London England
Registered: May 2007

posted July 20, 2009 08:53 AM

Hi Elmo did make a stereo version of the 16 CL, at least according to a 16mm film which was produced to promote the item showing how lasers were used to produce stereo optical tracks. Sadly I don't yet have a 16mm stereo projector to test the stereo capabilities of this print.
As 16mm stereo optical tracks are quite scarce I guess it was a system that didn't catch on.

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Kevin Faulkner
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From: Essex UK
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posted July 21, 2009 04:47 AM

Then it sounds like it was all just experimental. I too have heard mumblings in the past of stereo 16mm tests and yes I suppose some manufacturer would have to build a handful of machines for testing puposes and that may have been Elmo. As far as I am aware there were no Stereo 16mm machines sold comerially by any manufacturer.

I have now moved this topic to the 16mm forum.

Kev.

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