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David Roberts
Master Film Handler

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From: Suffolk. England
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posted February 24, 2017 11:26 AM

did anyone else see the Beaulieu 708 el described as excellent condition,that went for £320. seems like a very good purchase to me.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 24, 2017 11:46 AM

Yes I saw it David. Paintwork a bit chalky suggesting it may not have entirely always been stored in ideal conditions and an early base model also I think, but nevertheless, £320 for any working 708, let alone a good one,...a bargain!!😊😊

I'd want well over double that for my Stereo model.

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Rob Young.
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From: Cheshire, U.K.
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posted February 24, 2017 01:50 PM

Paint work on these early models was always terrible and requires a lot of TLC.

Not a bad price even as a spares machine...if it is really excellent, up and running and safe with prints then a bargain...

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 24, 2017 01:56 PM

I think it was described more as excellent working condition as opposed to excellent condition all around.

Yours looks great Rob and my own twin track model, still has perfectly sound and solid paintwork. Not discoloured in any way.

I think a lot depends on how you store and look after these things, personally.

Both of mine are perfectly safe with prints I'm pleased to say, as I'd expect nearly all to be if the input guide and claw are set correctly.

No white or flaking paintwork either necessary, or indeed beneficial!
[Wink]

[ February 24, 2017, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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Paul Adsett
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posted February 24, 2017 07:54 PM

There is really no excuse for white specs showing through the paintwork on these magnificently designed machines, even if they have been stored in a damp environment. The standard finish requirement for aluminum alloys (prior to painting) is a zinc chromate conversion coating known as alodine. This puts a protective layer on the aluminum alloy, eliminating all oxidation (which is what the white specs are). This coating is inexpensive and is so good that aluminum parts will survive hours in a hot salt-fog environment with zero corrosion. It is a requirement for all aluminum alloy parts supplied to NASA and the US military, and has been around for at least 70 years.
Beaulieu should have known better!

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 25, 2017 04:35 AM

Agreed Paul and this seems to be only an issue predominately, on the early models. Maybe they improved matters as they progressed with these, like they did with so many other aspects of their design with these.

As a damp indicator, the paintwork works well. After all, while the paintwork could and probably should have been made damp resistant, the electronics inside cannot. [Wink]

By the time the paintwork appears "chalky", you may very well have far more pressing issues to address first.

[ February 26, 2017, 04:28 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

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