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Claus Harding
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From: Washington DC
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posted November 11, 2007 09:42 PM

Hello All,

I recently acquired an Eiki 6000-ft. long-play unit, complete with a set of Goldberg 6000-ft floating-core reels.

My question is:

Since I find that I can still get those GB reels with floating cores, am I being foolish in thinking I could have the (admittedly expensive) option of putting my features on more of such reels, and leaving them on them, as opposed to making up/breaking down a print each time before screening?

My concern is weight, gravity, deformation (any/all of them) of such a load on such a big reel over time, standing up. Or is laying them down a desirable option, to emulate the weight distribution of a platter?

Or, quite honestly, is it just the 'lazy man' in me talking, and am I risking the films with such storage?

As always, any advice is welcome,

Claus.

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Michael O'Regan
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posted November 12, 2007 02:27 PM

Hi Claus,

Personally speaking, I can see no reason why you can't store the prints on 6000ft reels, either vertically or horizontally.

Either way, you must have a lot of space in which to store such big reels????

-Mike

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Claus Harding
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posted November 12, 2007 08:22 PM

Michael,

Sadly, it's exactly the opposite; a small apartment [Roll Eyes]

But I am doing the math and a vertical monster reel standing, versus 2 to 3 2000- or 1600-footers next to each other doesn't ultimately seem any worse in my walk-though closet, just based on my initial set of 2 6000-footers in there. In fact, it fills in the space below my hanging clothes very effectively, compared to the row of reels.

It's one of those where when you go for the complete opposite of what your mind initially thinks is completely mad, suddenly you realize it just might be the solution. At least that's the line I have been giving my wife... [Big Grin]

But seriously, the appeal of just taking one reel out to do a feature screening is nice. Even if lifting it can give you a hernia.

Best,
Claus.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted November 13, 2007 02:19 AM

Claus

You should store horizontally in order to minimise weight distribution. If the spools are stored verically there is too much weight imposed on the film.

Obviously, just making up for showing and leaving for a short time will not affect the film. Most 35mm cinemas now use horizontal platters, but some small boxes (booths) have only room for vertical towers. Either way, it's the same. If you see what I mean!

A further suggestion is that the spools are not stored on top of each other, try and arrange horizontal shelving to keep the weight of each to a minimum.

Maurice

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Claus Harding
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posted November 13, 2007 12:27 PM

Thanks Maurice,

I will see if I can generate enough space for horizontal shelving like you suggest; otherwise it will be back to old-style "make 'em when you need 'em" projection.

Best,
Claus.

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