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Thomas Dafnides
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 - posted September 23, 2012 09:43 PM      Profile for Thomas Dafnides     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone have any thoughts as to why the contemporary film industry is unable to bring to the screen, the same caliber of stars of yesteryear (1920 -1960 ), in today's feature films?

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted September 23, 2012 10:19 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good question. The stars of Hollwoods golden age, were more than just stars of their day, they truly became immortal through their work, and the films they made are, for the most part, timeless. Todays, so called stars, are not even close. Film stars today, are little more than celebrities. They have a life span of 10 years at best, and most of their work is completely forgettable. A lot of it is due, I think, to the fact that films today are made by much less talented people, not just the stars themselves, but the writers, musicians, cinematographers etc - all the people who helped make an actor look great.

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Michael O'Regan
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 - posted September 24, 2012 03:18 AM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Paul. In addition, the system which existed in those days - the Studio System, as it's called - was a million miles away from what exists today. The studios marketed their roster of actors in a way that doesn't really exist today. They were like factories, ever in competition with one another - "More Stars Than There Are in Heaven", etc... The studios promoted their stars and in addition, they worked them constantly. The big names were never off the screen for long unlike today. There was always "the next Crawford feature" or "the latest from Gable" just around the corner. The stars, essentially, drove the machine along. That was the primary reason people went to the cinema - to see Clara, or Joan or Garbo, or... These days, films are made differently and marketed differently.

In the late twenties and early thirties especially, the whole thing was very new - the largescale appearance of features in the twenties through to the appearance of the talkies. Fan magazines existed which no longer exist. The stars were given clean images, which in many cases were far from the actual truth. These days, what's publicized is the sordid details of the stars private lives in the gossip rags and tabloid press, which in many cases are also far from the actual truth. The point being, the public's perceptions of what a star is and does and how they're expected to behave are totally different these days.

So, overall in answer to your query, those were different times. Plus, of course, the past is always golden when we look back at it.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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 - posted September 24, 2012 04:26 AM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
All the above is quite true,coupled to the added advantage that
quite a few of the old favourites had, was that they were trained
in theatre some of course were "hoofers" and the majority had
various skills or second strings to their bows,but one thing they all
had in common was that they could enunciate and speak a line
clearly, unlike some of our so called stars of today, whose mumblings make a mockery of the various sound systems.

[ September 24, 2012, 07:13 AM: Message edited by: Hugh Thompson Scott ]

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Bill Phelps
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 - posted September 24, 2012 07:17 AM      Profile for Bill Phelps     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good points by everyone. Michael has hit the nail on the head with my thoughts on the subject...I think the Studio System and the way that it operated has a lot to do with the difference. It makes me think of professional football...teams used to stay together and be successful for years and now everyone hops from team to team. The old stars used to work for a studio and now they are on their own and they work at their leisure.

I also feel that the "show everything" mentality plays into that as well. Up into the 1960's filmmakers tackled tough and edgy subjects but had to be very creative it the way they did it to stay within the code. Now they show you everything....and that's not always as good. I feel the talent reached higher then because of the creativity to "get around the code"

These are different times.

Bill [Smile]

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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 - posted September 24, 2012 01:27 PM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
In the UK we had the Rank Films "Charm School" where actors &
actresses learned their craft and also Hammer Films that gave
a lot of new talent a leg up into stardom.Unfortunately now,
studios like the aforementioned are gone ( although Bray Studios
is still in use for TV work etc) and the "family atmosphere" of the
same staff etc being in continuous employ film after film alas is
no more and like everywhere else,skills are assembled for the
one picture then paid off.

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