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Posted by Ugo Grassi (Member # 139) on May 04, 2006, 04:30 AM:
http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/gallery/super8projectors/hti1_001 (look the photo on the right)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ELMO-GS12 00-Super-8mm-film-STEREO-Cine-Projector_W0QQitemZ7613942236QQcategoryZ11722QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
My photos are of "public domain", so this is not a problem for me, but.. is this auction really serious?
Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on May 04, 2006, 04:44 AM:
Yeah... Like putting a 250w lamp in there... Oh dear.
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 04, 2006, 07:42 AM:
I have asked the seller if the picture on ebay is of the actual machine. Be interesting to see what reply I get back.
I like the way he's pinched someone elses piture and then adds that the reels shown are not included.
250W lamp.....a real no no.
Anyway guy's this thread should really be under the ebay thread but seing as this is really about the theft of Ugo's picture I will let it carry on.
Kev.
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 04, 2006, 08:01 AM:
Hey Kev!
I didn't read all the posts so I went and emailed the seller the exact question about the picture that you did. If Ugo complains to Ebay they will stop the auction and removed the listing. I had it happen where another seller nicked my pictures for a GS800 I was selling. I wouldn't of minded so much except my auction was still running! So I kept getting emails asking me if I had 2 for sale.
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 04, 2006, 09:30 AM:
Alan, it will be interesting to see what reply you get. Yes you are right eBay could make him remove his listing. Lets face it the machine could be a beaten up badly marked job. Mind you the buyer wouldnthen be able to have him for missrepresentation.
Does anyone know who this seller is?
Kev.
Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on May 04, 2006, 09:40 AM:
Kevin,
The seller is Lee Mannering, as I bought a film of him a few weeks back.
Posted by David Park (Member # 123) on May 04, 2006, 10:10 AM:
Which area does Lee live in?
Interesting if Ebay take this item off over a photo, I've reported worse and nothing happened.
Posted by Del Phillipson (Member # 513) on May 04, 2006, 01:16 PM:
I spoke to this guy last week about the possibility of picking the projector up personally but was told in no uncertain terms that he didn't want anyone visiting his home as he wanted his privacy and would only post the projector. I just mailed him back and said "good luck". He reckoned he had had a lot of interest in the projector but looking at the bids made not that much.
Posted by David Park (Member # 123) on May 04, 2006, 01:32 PM:
Well something wrong with it then.
The money saved with collection and subscquent cash payment in Paypal fees would encourage me at least if I were seller.
Posted by Del Phillipson (Member # 513) on May 04, 2006, 01:47 PM:
you'd think if he wanted to "keepfilmalive" so much he might welcome another film collector round for a chat when buying his projector.
Posted by Ugo Grassi (Member # 139) on May 04, 2006, 04:57 PM:
I wrote to him. He's a kind guy! anyway he changed the photo in the auction... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 04, 2006, 07:18 PM:
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anyway he changed the photo in the auction
Phew! I thought it was just me, because I couldn't see where he'd stolen any of Ugo's pictures. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by John Cook (Member # 203) on May 04, 2006, 07:36 PM:
Somebody buy it and sell me the lens cheap.
Posted by Dan Lail (Member # 18) on May 04, 2006, 07:59 PM:
Once I found a seller using my photos and description for his film auction. When I asked him about it, he denied and said it was coincidental. There were five pic shots and and a very looooong description I wrote word for word. Ebay didn't buy the coincidental excuse. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 04, 2006, 10:42 PM:
I like Ugos pictures better!
And he said forget the Sankyos, Bell and Howells and the Eumigs! Paul...are you reading? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 05, 2006, 07:24 AM:
Why didn't he just say "forget the Beaulieus and Fumeos," too ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Ugo Grassi (Member # 139) on May 05, 2006, 03:54 PM:
Lee Mannering, Lee Mannering...
When I read this name on this topic I said to me.. "I know this name..."
and then... ya..I remember!!!
He's the seller of this auction that I won..
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7581118277&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:IT:1
Do you wanna know what I received???
The service manual of the standard machine!!! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
I sent to him many mails but I received only unless answers...
My opinion on him is negative...
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 05, 2006, 04:49 PM:
Ah yes Ugo now I remember. And yes your right no answer to emails.
I think this might be a case of buyer beware ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Kev.
Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 05, 2006, 06:44 PM:
Ditto here. No answer to my emails. Se la Vie.
Posted by Craig Hamilton (Member # 258) on May 05, 2006, 07:23 PM:
I got a reply!!!!!!!!!!
keepfilmalive( 68)
Positive Feedback: 100%
Member Since: 01-Jan-05
Location: Lancashire, United Kingdom
Registered On: www.ebay.co.uk
Item: ELMO GS1200 Super 8mm film STEREO Cine Projector (7613942236)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
keepfilmalive is the seller.
Hello and thank you for your question. I do not have any more GS photographs to show but can confirm the item is as shown. A GS1200 machine and spec as listed. Kindest regards
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Item Details
Item name: ELMO GS1200 Super 8mm film STEREO Cine Projector
Item number: 7613942236
End date: 06-May-06 18:45:42 BST
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Craig
Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on May 05, 2006, 10:18 PM:
Well, that's saying a whole lotta nothing.
Posted by David Park (Member # 123) on May 06, 2006, 01:33 AM:
Is his starting price too high he is getting no bids with only a few hours to go?
Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on May 06, 2006, 05:40 AM:
That price is about right. He will probably get a bid at the last minute but not from me.
Kev.
Posted by Del Phillipson (Member # 513) on May 06, 2006, 01:29 PM:
and he did, will be interesting to see if everything turns out ok.
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