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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 506
From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003

posted May 04, 2006 04:30 AM

http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/gallery/super8projectors/hti1_001 (look the photo on the right)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ELMO-GS12 00-Super-8mm-film-STEREO-Cine-Projector_W0QQitemZ7613942236QQcategoryZ11722QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

My photos are of "public domain", so this is not a problem for me, but.. is this auction really serious?

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God

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From: France
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posted May 04, 2006 04:44 AM

Yeah... Like putting a 250w lamp in there... Oh dear.

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 04, 2006 07:42 AM

I have asked the seller if the picture on ebay is of the actual machine. Be interesting to see what reply I get back.

I like the way he's pinched someone elses piture and then adds that the reels shown are not included.

250W lamp.....a real no no.

Anyway guy's this thread should really be under the ebay thread but seing as this is really about the theft of Ugo's picture I will let it carry on.

Kev.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted May 04, 2006 08:01 AM

Hey Kev!
I didn't read all the posts so I went and emailed the seller the exact question about the picture that you did. If Ugo complains to Ebay they will stop the auction and removed the listing. I had it happen where another seller nicked my pictures for a GS800 I was selling. I wouldn't of minded so much except my auction was still running! So I kept getting emails asking me if I had 2 for sale.

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 04, 2006 09:30 AM

Alan, it will be interesting to see what reply you get. Yes you are right eBay could make him remove his listing. Lets face it the machine could be a beaten up badly marked job. Mind you the buyer wouldnthen be able to have him for missrepresentation.

Does anyone know who this seller is?

Kev.

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Barry Attwood
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Enfield, U.K.
Registered: Aug 2003

posted May 04, 2006 09:40 AM

Kevin,

The seller is Lee Mannering, as I bought a film of him a few weeks back.

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David Park
Master Film Handler

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From: UK
Registered: Nov 2003

posted May 04, 2006 10:10 AM

Which area does Lee live in?

Interesting if Ebay take this item off over a photo, I've reported worse and nothing happened.

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Del Phillipson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Derbyshire, England
Registered: Dec 2005

posted May 04, 2006 01:16 PM

I spoke to this guy last week about the possibility of picking the projector up personally but was told in no uncertain terms that he didn't want anyone visiting his home as he wanted his privacy and would only post the projector. I just mailed him back and said "good luck". He reckoned he had had a lot of interest in the projector but looking at the bids made not that much.

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David Park
Master Film Handler

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From: UK
Registered: Nov 2003

posted May 04, 2006 01:32 PM

Well something wrong with it then.
The money saved with collection and subscquent cash payment in Paypal fees would encourage me at least if I were seller.

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Del Phillipson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Derbyshire, England
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posted May 04, 2006 01:47 PM

you'd think if he wanted to "keepfilmalive" so much he might welcome another film collector round for a chat when buying his projector.

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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003

posted May 04, 2006 04:57 PM

I wrote to him. He's a kind guy! anyway he changed the photo in the auction... [Big Grin]

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted May 04, 2006 07:18 PM

quote:
anyway he changed the photo in the auction

Phew! I thought it was just me, because I couldn't see where he'd stolen any of Ugo's pictures. [Roll Eyes]

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John Cook
Expert Film Handler

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From: Papillion, NE
Registered: Apr 2004

posted May 04, 2006 07:36 PM

Somebody buy it and sell me the lens cheap. [Big Grin]

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Dan Lail
Film God

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From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
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posted May 04, 2006 07:59 PM

Once I found a seller using my photos and description for his film auction. When I asked him about it, he denied and said it was coincidental. [Roll Eyes]

There were five pic shots and and a very looooong description I wrote word for word. Ebay didn't buy the coincidental excuse. [Smile]

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted May 04, 2006 10:42 PM

I like Ugos pictures better! [Smile]

And he said forget the Sankyos, Bell and Howells and the Eumigs! Paul...are you reading? [Eek!]

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
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posted May 05, 2006 07:24 AM

Why didn't he just say "forget the Beaulieus and Fumeos," too [Wink]

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Ugo Grassi
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Avellino (Italy)
Registered: Dec 2003

posted May 05, 2006 03:54 PM

Lee Mannering, Lee Mannering... [Roll Eyes]

When I read this name on this topic I said to me.. "I know this name..."
and then... ya..I remember!!!
He's the seller of this auction that I won..
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7581118277&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:IT:1

Do you wanna know what I received???
The service manual of the standard machine!!! [Mad]

I sent to him many mails but I received only unless answers...
My opinion on him is negative...

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Ugo

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 05, 2006 04:49 PM

Ah yes Ugo now I remember. And yes your right no answer to emails. [Mad]

I think this might be a case of buyer beware [Frown]

Kev.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted May 05, 2006 06:44 PM

Ditto here. No answer to my emails. Se la Vie.

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Craig Hamilton
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Luton
Registered: Sep 2004

posted May 05, 2006 07:23 PM

I got a reply!!!!!!!!!!

keepfilmalive( 68)
Positive Feedback: 100%
Member Since: 01-Jan-05
Location: Lancashire, United Kingdom
Registered On: www.ebay.co.uk

Item: ELMO GS1200 Super 8mm film STEREO Cine Projector (7613942236)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
keepfilmalive is the seller.

Hello and thank you for your question. I do not have any more GS photographs to show but can confirm the item is as shown. A GS1200 machine and spec as listed. Kindest regards
Respond to this question in My Messages.

Item Details

Item name: ELMO GS1200 Super 8mm film STEREO Cine Projector
Item number: 7613942236
End date: 06-May-06 18:45:42 BST

View item description:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7613942236&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1

Thank you for using eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/

Craig

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
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posted May 05, 2006 10:18 PM

Well, that's saying a whole lotta nothing. [Roll Eyes]

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David Park
Master Film Handler

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From: UK
Registered: Nov 2003

posted May 06, 2006 01:33 AM

Is his starting price too high he is getting no bids with only a few hours to go?

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted May 06, 2006 05:40 AM

That price is about right. He will probably get a bid at the last minute but not from me.

Kev.

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Del Phillipson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Derbyshire, England
Registered: Dec 2005

posted May 06, 2006 01:29 PM

and he did, will be interesting to see if everything turns out ok.

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