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Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 14, 2006, 12:01 AM:

I have a brand new "lab mint" Super Eight scope feature print of "Thunderball" (United Artists, 1965). It's an LPP print and was only run one time to check the magnetic soundtrack. I am going to eventually buy this title in 16mm IB Technicolor and scope since this James Bond film is my most favorite title. What would the current value be of this brand new pristine print? It is on seven 400 foot reels in magnetic sound. As everyone know's this does require a scope lens. I might eventually sell the lens and stand as well.

Thank's,

--Tom Pennock

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 14, 2006, 10:07 AM:

I could only give an assessment, but I'd say around 200.00. I say that as that would be around what you'd get from a collector, perhaps a little more. The curse with super 8 is that film is like a new car; you drive it off the lot and it drops a couple thousand dollars. The same is true of super 8. A lot also depends on how available the print is; is it a common print, for instance?

Another factor is the company that produced it. If it a Derann print, then it is worth more as the collector knows that it is the "cadillac" of film prints. What film lab, as well.

That, and just how much the particular film is desired.

A good case of this is a collector that put two super 8 prints on ebay, "Speed" and "The Abyss". He was wanting 350.00 dollars for these prints, what he basically would have paid for them brand new. Not suprisingly, the films didn't sell.

If you were to put this print on ebay for instance, (Thunderball), start it at 200.00, which would mean you wouldn't be ripped off on the print, and for all you know, people might bid it up a lot. But if you place too high of a starting bid, you'll get ripped off.

OH, and don't go to a professional seller of Super 8, as with any professional; "Buy low, sell high", you'll never really get a good price from them.

I hope the advice helps.

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on November 14, 2006, 10:42 AM:

Tom I'm interested in this print. You've got a pm.

Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 14, 2006, 10:59 AM:

Hi Dimitrios:
I just sent you a pm reply.
Best, Tom
P.S. I see you live in Greece. Feel free to e-mail me at: tapennock@aol.com

Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 14, 2006, 07:16 PM:

The print is currently listed on e-bay. Item number is: 320049514694
Thank's!
--Tom Pennock

Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 21, 2006, 09:26 PM:

The Super Eight feature print of "Thunderball" in scope did not make it's reserve and ended at around $100.00.
I will do like I do with ALL the Kellogg's Corn Flakes" I eat here in Cereal City. I will eat the print before I will sell it for $100.00 or $200.00 for breakfast.
--Tom [Smile]

Posted by Dan Lail (Member # 18) on November 21, 2006, 11:52 PM:

Tom, I guess that's better than burning it. [Big Grin]

Of course eating Thunderball could have it's repercussions. [Big Grin]

I'll bet it will sell if you list in late January or soon there after. That is if the reserve isn't way way up there. [Smile]

Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 23, 2006, 07:32 PM:

Hi Dan:
I don't have a problem digesting processed film stock. It's just the raw film stock that gives me trouble!!! [Smile]

The "Thunderball" Lab Mint Super Eight scope feature print is no longer available for sale. Thank you to everyone for your interest.

--Tom

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 23, 2006, 11:00 PM:

I thought that was your print on ebay. It's all a matter of demand and sadly, as stated earlier, we can almost never get for the print what we'd like to. Most of a films value is in the personal value we put on it ourselves, (which is, of course, far higher than the "market" will allow.)

I do hope, if you should try to sell it in the future, that you'll have better luck. At least, (if I know that print), it's on a very good non-fading L.P.P. film stock and it will retain much of it's resale-ability for the future.

The funny thing is that there are a lot of newer film collectors, (I think a lot of them are like me, we grew up with super 8 as kids, and were getting back into that fondness for distant memories).

The only problem is that a lot of the newer collectors, (that I have talked to) don't understand just how expensive this hobby was, and in most ways, still is, (new prints from England, for example), and so they aren't willing to shell out hundreds of dollars for films.

but, as I've said before, we sure as hell aren't in it for the bucks, were in it for the mystique, the magic of that projected image!

Posted by Tom A. Pennock (Member # 202) on November 24, 2006, 11:24 PM:

Hi Osi:

Yes, my print was on e-bay and it had a reserve. It only reached $100.99 and closed. Someone later contacted me and offered me $300.00 for it but for the time being I have decided to keep the print.

I sure do like my IB Tech 16mm print on this title in scope. Struck during my childhood in 1965/66. The print waited all these years to get to me.

Best Regards,

--Tom

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 25, 2006, 10:25 AM:

You know, honest to God, I don't know who your potential buyer is, but 300.00 for a feature like Thunderball is a pretty good selling price, I mean, I see prints of "Alien" and even Star Wars going for 300.00 on super 8. Usually, the older films, (that is, films from the golden age, 30's -60's), get a lot less, A LOT LESS), so I'd sell, if it was mine.

It's all about what the market will allow. There might be just one person who will pay 300.00, where most would only pay 200.00 tops.

It's only advice, and I wish you the best in selling it. Selling is all about timing, selling it when the demand is high ....

... and quite frankly, demand for super 8 isn't at it's highest right now, which is why most real film collectors are hesitant to move many good prints on the market.

all the best!

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