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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 12, 2016, 10:32 AM:
 
(the post has been edited with the recent acquisition)

I always try to complete my Tom & Jerry and I have now reached 111 episodes from 120 titles that I knew available on 8mm.

Some titles are released by Derann that they are housed in white boxes or an white boxes with generic pictures glued on that. Other are from Film Office that are always with red generic boxes. The most interesting artworks are from Walton which always come with full color pictures taken from the episode. Some of my TJs are from MGM which have similar art works attraction.

There are some title released by obscure companies and some just simply blank without any information to who have released them.

So since my TJ has reached 111 titles, and they came with different type of boxes and artworks, I have then decided to make my own box, directly printed on the box it self...so no sticking glue is used.

The artworks is following the design created for Walton. I make my own catalog number after the original Walton's cat# from TJ1 - TJ30.

So here is now my TJ's library with uniform box design and cat#

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They are as follows:

TJ01 Posse Cat
TJ02 His Mouse Friday
TJ03 Tennis Chumps
TJ04 Cruise Cat
TJ05 The Truce Hurts
TJ06 Cat Fishin'
TJ07 The Mouse Comes to Dinner
TJ08 The Milky Waif
TJ09 Jerry and the Goldfish
TJ10 Dr Jekyl and Mr Mouse
TJ11 Two Mousketeers
TJ12 Triplet Trouble
TJ13 Saturday Evening Puss
TJ14 Proffessor Tom
TJ15 Cue Ball Cat
TJ16 Jerry and Jumbo
TJ17 Tee for Two
TJ18 Casanova Cat
TJ19 Cat Napping
TJ20 Solid Serenade
TJ21 The Cat Concerto
TJ22 Johann Mouse
TJ23 Million Dollar Cat
TJ24 Baby Butch
TJ25 The Yankee Doodle Mouse
TJ26 The Night Before Christmas
TJ27 Puttin' on the Dog
TJ28 Love That Pup
TJ29 Flying Cat
TJ30 Hollywood Bowl
TJ31 Snowbody Loves me
TJ32 Trap Happy
TJ33 Little Runaway
TJ34 Blue Cat Blues
TJ35 Southbound Duckling
TJ36 The Lonesome Mouse
TJ37 Fraidy Cat
TJ38 The A-Tom-Inable Snowmam
TJ39 Jerry-Go-Round
TJ40 Happy Go Ducky
TJ41 The Flying Sorceress
TJ42 Designs on Jerry
TJ43 Barbecue Brawl
TJ44 Bowling Alley-Cat
TJ45 The Cat and the mermouse
TJ46 Jerry's Cousin
TJ47 That's my pup
TJ48 Little Quacker
TJ49 Fine Feathered Friend
TJ50 Pup on a picnic
TJ51 Push button kitty
TJ52 Heavenly Puss
TJ53 Mouse Cleaning
TJ54 The cat's me-ouch
TJ55 Mouse trouble
TJ56 Bad day at the cat rock
TJ57 The Duck doctor
TJ58 Timid Tabby
TJ59 Feedin' the kiddie
TJ60 Salt water tabby
TJ61 Texas Tom
TJ62 Sleepy time tom
TJ63 Mouse for sale
TJ64 Pet Peeve
TJ65 Quiet Please!
TJ66 Mice Follies
TJ67 Purr-Chance to dream
TJ68 The Egg And Jerry
TJ69 Of Feline Bondage
TJ70 Filet Meow
TJ71 Matinee Mouse
TJ72 Mouse In Manhattan
TJ73 Flirty Birdy
TJ74 Calypso Cat
TJ75 Polka-Dot Puss
TJ76 Baby Puss
TJ77 Kitty Foiled
TJ78 Jerry and the Lion
TJ79 The Missing Mouse
TJ80 Down Beat Bear
TJ81 Tom and Cherie
TJ82 Royal Cat Nip
TJ83 Robin Hoodwinked
TJ84 Mucho Mouse
TJ85 Safety Second
TJ86 The Invisible Mouse
TJ87 O-Solar-Meow
TJ88 Puss Gets the Boot
TJ89 Busy Buddies
TJ90 Dog House (La niche de bouledogue)
TJ91 Dog Trouble
TJ92 Fit to be Tied
TJ93 Life with Tom (Mon Ami Tom)
TJ94 Little Orphan
TJ95 Much Ado about Mousing
TJ96 Old Rockin' Chair Tom
TJ97 Part Time Pal
TJ98 Peco's pest
TJ99 Penthouse Mouse
TJ100 It's Greek to Meow
TJ101 Tops with Pops
TJ102 Smarty Cat
TJ103 Framed Cat, The
TJ104 Just Ducky
TJ105 Mouse in the House
TJ106 Nit Witty Kitty
TJ107 Slicked Up Pup
TJ108 Puppy Tale
TJ109 Springtime for Thomas
TJ110 Touché, Pussy Cat!
TJ111 Two Little Indians

(ps: TJ 22 & TJ23 are not available from Walton so these 2 cat# are still mystery since TJ 24 -TJ30 are available from Walton. So TJ 22 & 23 on the above list are my own made up numbers)

Here some pictures of my own design:

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The 11 titles are not yet on the above list as follows:

1. Duel Personality 1966
2. Jerry's Diary 1949
3. Little School Mouse 1954
4. Muscle Beach Tom 1956
5. Neapolitan Mouse 1954
6. Puss 'N' Toots 1942
7. Vanishing Duck 1958
8. Haunted Mouse
9. Hic-cup Pup
10. Cat Above The Mouse Below, The
11. Bodyguard, The

So with the above score, unless someone can show me the otherwise, I can now declare my self as a man with the most complete Tom & Jerry episodes on super 8mm in the world ! [Big Grin] [Razz]

[ October 04, 2016, 03:57 AM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]
 
Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on September 12, 2016, 10:47 AM:
 
Wow, you are a collecting God, Winbert. I collect the Tom and Jerrys but I have nothing like this and am still trying to complete the Walton set. I didn't realise there were so many released and assumed that there were more 'duplicate' releases by the various companies that released them. Seems I have a long way to go...

I also love that you have given the Derann and Film Office prints a 'Walton re-release.' Very clever!
 
Posted by Greg Perry (Member # 5177) on September 12, 2016, 10:50 AM:
 
That is a fantastic collection! It is always fun to see pictures of other people's film libraries. And the boxes and cover art are as great as you say.

I am wondering if you can name your all-time favorite T&J episode?

Thank you for sharing the pictures!
 
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on September 12, 2016, 10:54 AM:
 
You certainly beat my 27, by a long mile. I hadn't counted them before your post so I was surprised by how many I actually have as some were bought on composite reels.

By the way great labels on your own design boxes!!
 
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on September 12, 2016, 11:40 AM:
 
quote:
So here is now my TJ's library with uniform box design and cat#
-so why doesn't the MOUSE get a number?

(... [Wink] )
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 12, 2016, 12:32 PM:
 
Magnificent Winbert, you're attention to details is to be applauded. Compared to you, I'd have to have the top title, "Top Super 8mm slob!", as I don't have to much to do with original boxes or re-creating them, but this has been a great labor of love for you!

Congratulations, and best wishes on finding those rare titles! [Smile]
 
Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on September 12, 2016, 02:03 PM:
 
That is a superb set you have collected there Winbert, well done.

At one stage I had about 90 T&J's on Super 8 then things got complicated as I bought many again on 16mm and a couple on 35mm too.

The ones you list at the end if they are your remaining wants I can help you with some of those titles on Super 8.

Kevin
 
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on September 12, 2016, 02:18 PM:
 
Congratulations !
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 12, 2016, 03:44 PM:
 
Winbert, I have 105 super 8 titles 116 if I add the 16mm titles but they don't count [Smile]
Here is my list I don't have a lot of the chuck Jones era titles mostly the Hanna Barbera years 41-58
The Midnight Snack 16mm
Puss Gets The Boot super 8
The Night Before Christmas super 8
Fraidy Cat super 8
Dog Trouble  super 8
Puss N' Toots  super 8
Bowling Alley Cat super 8
Fine Feathered Friend super 8
Sufferin' Cats 16MM
Lonesome Mouse super 8
The Yankee Doodle Mouse super 8
Baby Puss super 8
Zoot Cat 16MM
The Million Dollar Cat  super 8
The Body Guard 16MM
Puttin' on the Dog 16MM
Puttin' on the Dog super 8
Mouse Trouble  super 8
The Mouse Comes To Dinner super 8
Mouse In Manhattan  super 8
Tee For Two  super 8
Flirty Birdy super 8
Quiet Please!  super 8
Springtime For Thomas  super 8
The Milky Waif  super 8
Trap Happy super 8
Solid Serenade  super 8
Cat Fishin'  super 8
Part-Time Pal super 8
The Cat Concerto  super 8
Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Mouse super 8
Salt Water Tabby  super 8
A Mouse In The House  super 8
The Invisible Mouse  super 8
Kitty Foiled  super 8
The Truce Hurts super 8
Old Rockin' Chair Tom  super 8
Professor Tom  super 8
Mouse Cleaning  super 8
Polka Dot Puss super 8
The Little Orphan  super 8
Hatch Up Your Troubles  super 8
Heavenly Puss  super 8
The Cat And The Mermouse super 8
Love That Pup super 8
Jerry's Diary super 8
Tennis Chumps  super 8
Little Quacker  super 8
Saturday Evening Puss  super 8
Texas Tom super 8
Jerry and the Lion super 8
Safety Second  super 8
The Hollywood Bowl  super 8
The Framed Cat  super 8
Cueball Cat super 8
Casanova Cat super 8
Jerry and the Goldfish super 8
Jerry's Cousin super 8
Sleepy Time Tom super 8
His Mouse Friday super 8
Slicked up Pup super 8
Nit-Witty Kitty super 8
Cat Napping super 8
The Flying Cat super 8
Duck Doctor super 8
Two Mouseketeers super 8
Smitten Kitten 16MM
Triplet Trouble super 8
Little Runaway super 8
Fit to be Tied super 8
Push Button Kitty super 8
Cruise Cat super 8
Cabin Cruise super 8
The Dog House super 8
Missing Mouse super 8
Jerry and Jumbo super 8
Johann Mouse super 8
That's my Pup super 8
Just Ducky super 8
Two Little Indians super 8
Life with Tom super 8
Puppy Tale super 8
Posse Cat super 8
Hiccup Pup 16MM
Little Red School Mouse super 8
Baby Butch super 8
Mice Follies super 8
Neapolitan Mouse super 8
Downhearted Duckling  16MM
Pet Peeve super 8
Touché, Pussy Cat! super 8
Southbound Duckling super 8
Pup on a Picnic super 8
Mouse for Sale super 8
Designs on Jerry super 8
Tom and Cheri super 8
Smarty Cat super 8
Pecos Pest super 8
That's my Mommy 16MM
The Flying Sorceress super 8
The Egg and Jerry super 8
Busy Buddies super 8
Muscle Beach Tom super 8
Down Beat Bear super 8
Blue Cat Blues super 8
Barbecue Brawl super 8
Tops with Pops super 8
Timid Tabby super 8
Feedin’ the Kiddie super 8
Mucho Mouse super 8
Tom's Photo Finish 16MM
Happy Go Ducky super 8
Royal Cat Nap super 8
Vanishing Duck super 8
Robin Hoodwinked super 8
Tot Watchers 16MM
Matinee Mouse super 8
Shutter Bugged Cat 16MM

[ June 28, 2018, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: Jim Schrader ]
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on September 12, 2016, 04:14 PM:
 
Winbert that is simply outstanding. We thought we were doing well with 25. A true collector. [Wink]
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 12, 2016, 06:04 PM:
 
Guys thanks.

@Steve J Kirk... it seems to me between Walton, MGM and Film Office there was such competition not to release what other companies had released. Yes there are duplicate on several titles but most of them are not. Then came Derann who released what these 3 companies had deleased plus some new titles.

The obscure companies are those from Dutch and Italy.

@Greg...my all time fav will be those from Fred Quimby era

@Kevin Clark, I have sent you a PM
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on September 12, 2016, 07:23 PM:
 
Superb work there Winbert, what a wonderful collection. But how were you able to print directly on to the film boxes?
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 12, 2016, 08:45 PM:
 
Jim, now I have to revise my status to become "the man with the most complete Tom & Jerry episode on super 8mm in Indonesia"... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

BTW, you listed Cabin Cruise, I have checked on the net, I did not find TJ episode with this title. This must be just re-titled of TJ "Cruise Cat".

I have found that those TJs from the Netherlands were titled in different way although it is in English.

There are 12 titles that you have but I did not have, as follows:

Jerry's Diary
The Framed Cat
Slicked up Pup
Nit-Witty Kitty
Just Ducky
Two Little Indians
Puppy Tale
Little Red School Mouse
Neapolitan Mouse
Touché, Pussy Cat!
Muscle Beach Tom
Vanishing Duck

So since I have 102 episodes and you have 104 (minus "Cabin Cruise") there must be around 9 titles that I have but you don't. Can you list it here, perhaps I have duplicate for those titles.

I see you don't have "Filet Meow", "Much Ado about Mousing" (I have multiple copies), "It's Greek to Meow" (I have multiple copies), ...what else?. Perhaps we can work out together to complete each collection. [Wink]

Anyway to answer the questions, both through PM and here, in one reply here my explanation how to make them.

I am not exaggerating here, but it is quite complicate and took so many hours to achieve that.

1. I measure the Walton box and scanned the best box I have as a basic design.

2. I created a pattern of the box where I can cut, fold and glue the pattern to make a solid box.

Here is the pattern:

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ps: there were a lot of hit and misses here, since picture sometime not in the exact position. So I had to do trial and error hundreds time until I got that perfect pattern.

3. I had to find the best white cardboard that I can fold (without breaking it) and had the length more than 11 inch since the pattern was longer than that but not to thick so printer still could take it.

(@Pauld Adsett, this is the way I printed it directly to the paper/cardboard)

4. Now for designing individual cover. This is not an easy job too. I browsed to the net for the most notable scene of each episode. It has to be in high resolution if you want to print better pictures. Sometimes I got them easy if they were popular titles. But for less popular titles it was so hard.

5. Move the scene to the template above.

6. Add (paste) with Tom & Jerry's logo that I already store in my drive.

7 Add the year of production info as always seen in the original Walton's

8. Now, the other hard job is to make the titles of each episode. For the easiest ones, we can just use fonts that available in the computer. But I am a perfectionist. If I did that, every cover will just look the same ..so it will be boring. Therefor what I did was to take every individual fonts from each episode that appear in the first credit title. Here is the example:

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As you can see where the fonts on my cover Peco's Pest and Part Time Pal are taken from.

9. Then I pasted and after giving my cat# no, I printed it

10. Let the prints dry out for about an hour, then I spray with transparent paint to laminate the print in order to avoid it get faded or blurry after years. It also give shiner and brighter picture.

11. Cut the paper according to the pattern, fold, and glue them.

END

In total for every individual cover will take about 3-4 hours to finish....and I have 102 titles..... [Big Grin] [Razz] [Eek!]

But I am happy since I am a perfectionist one.

Good luck whoever is going to give a try

cheers,
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 12, 2016, 09:46 PM:
 
Yes cabin cruise is a 50 ft reel of the cruise cat I forgot to leave that out. Those covers look nice I have most of mine in the sturdy white hinged 200ft boxes with the generic derann covers they used with the synopsis's printed on address labels.
 
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on September 12, 2016, 09:48 PM:
 
Thanks for that detailed explanation Winbert. You obviously have a commendable level of dedication to this film collecting hobby.
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 12, 2016, 11:54 PM:
 
That's a brilliant collection Winbert [Cool] well done [Smile]
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 13, 2016, 02:41 AM:
 
Bravo !!!

Me also I own a large collection of TOM & Jerry in super8: especially those of Derann but also Walton, Film Office which some in optical sound
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 13, 2016, 08:12 AM:
 
Antoine can you post your lists of titles?
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 13, 2016, 09:41 PM:
 
Jim,

I have checked my list against your list and found what I have but not in your list. There are 13 titles all together, as follows:

O-Solar-Meow
Purr-Chance to dream (I have multiple copies)
Of Feline Bondage
Calypso Cat
Snowbody Loves me
The A-Tom-Inable Snowman
Jerry-Go-Round
The cat's me-ouch
Bad day at the cat rock
Tom and Cherie
Filet Meow
Much Ado about Mousing (I have multiple copies)
It's Greek to Meow (I have multiple copies)

What duplicate copies you have?

cheers,
 
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on September 14, 2016, 06:00 AM:
 
As a fellow "boxer", I bow to your effort - Superb - Cheers, Shorty - Oh, I'll try to find your other titles
 
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on September 14, 2016, 06:12 AM:
 
So,with 72 titles plus the ANCHORS AWEIGH extract,all in standard or super 8 color/sound,does it make me the third biggest T&J collector in the world, or Europe,or Greece,or Athens ? Decidedly,I don't like Chuck Jones (I have only one) and Gene Deitch (I have none although I would like to have one or two).
Winbert,your numbering is arbitrary and you don't distinguish among companies. MILLION DOLLAR CAT and JOHANN MOUSE were MGM releases with respective numbers M-107 and M-112. Also,you and the others do not point out the Cinemascope editions. MGM also released flat versions of their Ciemascope films in all gauges (35, 16,and 8mm).I have both versions of SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING,from Cineavision and Derann and there are others too.
I also have the "Cabin Cruise" extract. It was given as a gift by some company as far as I can remember.
 
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 14, 2016, 11:43 AM:
 
Winbert ...

Should I assume that, not only do you have every Tom and Jerry on super 8, but every issue of each title, that is, if Derann put out "Cat Concerto", you would also have the official MGM, as well as Walton ect ect? [Smile]
 
Posted by David Watson (Member # 3614) on September 14, 2016, 02:54 PM:
 
Well done , Winbert and Jim, 102 amd 105 Tom & Jerry's respectivly, Ive just got you beat by a little I have 108 all on super 8 and am still looking, bet you are to,,
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 14, 2016, 09:30 PM:
 
Winbert as of now I don't have any duplicates as I get titles I need I check them out if they don't meet my expectations I keep looking for another copy and sell the others.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 14, 2016, 11:17 PM:
 
quote:
MILLION DOLLAR CAT and JOHANN MOUSE were MGM releases with respective numbers M-107 and M-112. Also,you and the others do not point out the Cinemascope editions. MGM also released flat versions of their Ciemascope films in all gauges (35, 16,and 8mm).I have both versions of SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING,from Cineavision and Derann and there are others too.
@Panayotis, yes I knew it. But since I was making all as Walton's design, so I just numbered those to TJ on my Walton cat# as it is coincidence this two spaces (TJ 22 & 23) were emptied for an unknown reason, while Walton had TJ until TJ30.

I only collect one version, as I am concerned mainly to the story, not to the version. I was aware that "The Egg and Jerry" was a remake from "Hatch Up Your Troubles" so I just only bought either one.

quote:
Should I assume that, not only do you have every Tom and Jerry on super 8, but every issue of each title, that is, if Derann put out "Cat Concerto", you would also have the official MGM, as well as Walton ect ect?
No Osi, I am not kind of OCD like that [Wink] ... I am just focusing on the story not the version.

quote:
Well done , Winbert and Jim, 102 amd 105 Tom & Jerry's respectivly, Ive just got you beat by a little I have 108 all on super 8 and am still looking
David...you beat me...so I am now even getting lower to the third position [Razz]

Can you also list here what you have?

cheers,
 
Posted by Martin Davey (Member # 2841) on September 15, 2016, 02:27 AM:
 
One of the best sources for Tom and Jerry I know of is this old book from the early 1990s....https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tom-Jerry-Definitive-Animated-Adventures/dp/0517573512.
I would have thought, to be complete, that the remakes would find a place in the collection. Although the story may largely be the same, visually they are quite, quite different, not only because of the cinemascope format but also because the artwork is different.
There also also the question of the two 'Spike and Tyke' cartoons (dog and son). I have a flat version of one of these, 'Scat Cat', with optical sound.
 
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on September 15, 2016, 07:16 AM:
 
Yes,the Patrick Brion book is by large THE best on the subject. Period. He makes only one mistake. He doesn't mention several cartoons that are in cinemascope, because he had seen only the flat version,and the accompanying pictures are from this one. But for other cinemascopes,and this is silly, the accompanying pictures are aqueezed!
I don't buy "both" versions.I prefer the 'scope ones.For "Southbound Duckling" I had the flat version and then I discovered that the 'scope version was also available.
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 15, 2016, 11:56 AM:
 
So guys, a good news here for me.

Since I posted this thread, I got a friendly email me offering Tom Jerrys that I have not had. So we have just sealed a deal for 9 TJs, they are:

Framed Cat, The 1950
Just Ducky 1953
Mouse in the House 1947
Nit Witty Kitty 1951
Slicked Up Pup 1951
Puppy Tale 1954
Springtime for Thomas 1946
Touché, Pussy Cat! 1954
Two Little Indians 1953

These 9 TJs are now on their way to Indonesia. It will take about 6-8 days to arrive.

So when they arrive, I will revise my list above and it will make my collection to become 111 titles....and by then I will take over my previous position....to be the number 1.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

So we'll see...

cheers,
 
Posted by David Watson (Member # 3614) on September 15, 2016, 01:54 PM:
 
Hi, Winbert and Jim and others, re: Tom & Jerry,
Hanna and Barbera created 114 Tom & Jerrys,Gene Deitch produced 13 and Chuck Jones made 34,making a total of 161 theatrical cartoons, Winbert you asked me to list my Tom & Jerry's on my previous post I said I had 108 titles,on checking again my list and the collection itself I have found I have a title not on my list namely 'fine feathered friend' a Film Office release.Thus making 109,again on checking my collection some titles are in scope I have 16 in total,,3 of these are scope remakes of earlier flat titles, these are 'Egg and Jerry scope remake of 'Hatch up your troubles' 'Tops with Pops'scope remake of 'Love that Pup'and 'Feedin the Kiddie'scope remake of'The Little Orphan. so some may say that is 106 titles but there again these scope titles were released in their own right,any way here is my list in no particular order....
THE CATS ME-OUCH
LITTLE ORPHAN
DUEL PERSONALITY
JERRY AND JUMBO
MILLION DOLLAR CAT
TENNIS CHUMPS
LOVE THAT PUP
CAT NAPPING
JOHAN MOUSE
POSSE CAT
THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
CASANOVA CAT
TWO MOUSEKETEERS
CAT CONCERTO
TEE FOR TWO
QUIET PLEASE
MOUSE TROUBLE
INVISIBLE MOUSE
MOUSE IN THE HOUSE
DR.JEKYL MR.MOUSE
CRUISE CAT
YANKEE DOODLE MOUSE
SATURDAY EVENING PUSS
MICE FOLLIES
PURCHANCE TO DREAM
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH
DESIGNS ON JERRY
PUSS GETS THE BOOT
MUSCLE BEACH TOM
THE DOG HOUSE
MOUSE IN MANHATTEN
THE FLYING CAT
DOG TROUBLE
HOLLYWOOD BOWL
FITT TO BE TIED
CUEBALL CAT
BABY BUTCH
MOUSE CLEANING
TRIPLET TROUBLE
LONESOME MOUSE
JERRY AND THE LION
HEAVENLY PUSS
TEXAS TOM
PUTTIN ON THE DOG
DUCK DOCTOR
VANISHING DUCK SCOPE
THE TRUCE HURTS
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY
PROFESSOR TOM
THE MILKY WAIF
CAT FISHING
SOLID SERENADE
BAD DAY AT CAT ROCK
PET PEEVE
THE EGG AND JERRY SCOPE
THATS MY PUP
FRAMED CAT
POLKA DOT CAT
MOUSE FOR SALE
HAPPY GO DUCKY SCOPE
BARBEQUE BRAWL SCOPE
MUCHO MOUSE SCOPE
TOM AND CHERIE SCOPE
ROBIN HOODWINKED SCOPE
PUP ON A PICNIC SCOPE
TOPS WITH POPS SCOPE
BLUE CAT BLUES SCOPE
FEEDIN THE KIDDIE SCOPE
BUSY BUDDIES SCOPE
BABY PUSS
JERRY'S COUSIN
FRAIDY CAT
BOWLING ALLEY CAT
DOWN BEAT BEAR SCOPE
SALT WATER TABBY
ROYAL CAT NAP SCOPE
TIMID TABBY
LITTLE QUACKER
SLEEPY TIME TOM
PUSH BUTTON KITTY
SOUTH BOUND DUCKLING SCOPE
FLYING SORCERESS SCOPE
LITTLE RUN AWAY
PUPPY TALE
TRAP HAPPY
SNOWBODY LOVES ME
MUCH ADO ABOUT MOUSING
MATINEE MOUSE
OLD ROCKIN CHAIR TOM
SLICKED UP PUP
FLIRTY BIRDY
JERRY'S DIARY
HATCH UP YOUR TROUBLES
KITTY FOILED OPTICAL SOUND
NIT WITTY KITTY
PUSS N TOOTS
SAFETY SECOND
LIFE WITH TOM
TWO LITTLE INDIANS
JUST DUCKY
SMARTY CAT
MISSING MOUSE
OF FELINE BONDAGE
NEOPOLITAN MOUSE
THE CAT AND THE MERMOUSE
SPRING TIME FOR THOMAS
LITTLE SCHOOL MOUSE
FINE FEATHERED FRIENDS

Heres a list of'Tom & Jerry's' I am still looking for on super 8 only.
IT'S GREEK TO ME-OW
PENTHOUSE MOUSE
PECOS PEST
TOUCHE PUSSY CAT
HAUNTED MOUSE
THE A TOM-INABLE SNOWMAN
JERRY GO ROUND
FILET MEOW
CALYPSO CAT
O-SOLAR MEOW
PART TIME PAL

I see Winbert by your last post you have gained some of the titles you were still looking for I am glad for you nice one,, looks like you are back on top pal.
Finally Winbert I must say your colourful boxes are great
and very professional...
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 16, 2016, 02:13 AM:
 
David from your list above, you don't have "Neapolitan Mouse" and "Hic-cup Pup" but I don't also see them in your wish list. Perhaps you forgot?

With the additional 9 TJs I got just now, I now need:

1. Duel Personality
2. Muscle Beach Tom
3. Little School Mouse
4. Jerry's Diary 1949
5. Puss 'N' Toots 1942
6. Vanishing Duck 1958
7. Hic-cup Pup*
8. Neapolitan Mouse 1954 *
9. Haunted Mouse*

Any duplicate you have for no. 1-6?

This is my duplicates:

Little Quacker
Kitty Foiled
Design on Jerry
Mice Folies
Purr-Chance to dream
Cat Napping
Little Orphan
Little Runaway
Love that pup
Solar o meow
Flying Sorceress
Jerry go-round
It's Greek to Me-ow
Mouse Comes to Dinner
Fine Feathered Friend (sound erased, can be re-recorded)
Much do about mousing (B/W sound)
Dog House (Col, Silent)
Life with Tom (Col, Silent)

So you can get from my duplicates: Solar o meow and Jerry go-round
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 16, 2016, 04:24 AM:
 
My super8 Tom&Jerry

VANISHING DUCK
TWO LITTLE INDIANS
TRUCE HURTS (THE)
TRIPLET TROUBLE
TRAP HAPPY
TOUCHE PUSSY CAT
TOPS WITH POPS
TOM AND CHERIE
TOM AND CHERIE
TIMID TABBY
THAT'S MY PUP
TENNIS CHUMPS
SPRINGTIME FOR THOMAS
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING
SLICKED UP PUP
SLEEPY TIME TOM
SATURDAY EVENING PUSS
SALT WATER TABBY
SAFETY SECOND
ROYAL CAT NAP
ROBIN HOODWINKED
QUIET PLEASE
PUTTIN' ON THE DOG
PUSS N' TOOTS
PUSS N' TOOTS
PUSS GETS THE BOOT
PUSH BUTTON KITTY
PUPPY TALE
PUP ON A PICNIC
PROFESSOR TOM
POSSE CAT
PET PEEVE
PECOS PEST
OLD ROCKIN' CHAIR TOM
NIT WITTY KITTY
NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS (THE)
MUSCLE BEACH TOM
MOUSE TROUBLE
MOUSE FOR SALE
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER (THE)
MOUSE CLEANING
MISSING MOUSE (THE)
MILLION DOLLAR CAT
MILKY WAIF (THE)
LOVE THAT PUP
LONESOME MOUSE (THE)
LITTLE SCHOOL MOUSE
LITTLE RUNAWAY + optical track
LITTLE QUACKER
LITTLE ORPHAN (THE)
KITTY FOILED + optical track
JUST DUCKY
JERRY'S COUSIN
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH
JERRY AND JUMBO
INVISIBLE MOUSE (THE)
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY
HIC CUP PUP
HEAVENLY PUSS
HATCH UP YOUR TROUBLES
HAPPY GO DUCKY
FRAIDY CAT
FLYING SORCERESS (THE)
FLYING CAT
FLIRTY BIRDY
FIT TO BE TIED
FEEDIN' THE KIDDIE
EGG AND JERRY (THE)
DUEL PERSONALITY
DUCK DOCTOR
DOWNBEAT BEAR
DOG TROUBLE
DESIGNS ON JERRY
CUEBALL CAT
CRUISE CAT
CAT NAPPING
CAT CONCERTO (THE) + optical track
CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)
BUSY BUDDIES
BOWLING ALLEY CAT (THE)
BODYGUARD (THE)
BLUE CAT BLUES
BARBECUE BRAWL
BAD DAY AT CAT ROCK
BABY BUTCH
A MOUSE IN THE HOUSE
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 16, 2016, 07:27 AM:
 
Antoine....woooow...

The are 3 titles that I have never known available on Super 8 before. Can you give me more details info (company release, color condition/stock, is title card English etc) for these below titles please:

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)
HIC CUP PUP
BODYGUARD (THE)
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 16, 2016, 08:30 AM:
 
Winbert,

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW (THE)1964 MGM edition faded color
HIC CUP PUP 1954 MGM edition faded color
BODYGUARD (THE)1944 MGM edition faded color
 
Posted by David Watson (Member # 3614) on September 16, 2016, 12:44 PM:
 
Antoine,thanks for posting your list of Tom & Jerry which you have in your collection, like Winbert, I did not know that the Tom & Jerry cartoons 'Cat above mouse below' 'Hic-cup pup'
and 'The body guard'were out on super 8,this is what makes the forum so good,you learn all sorts of useful and interresting things. That's another 3 titles to go on my wants list.

Winbert thanks also for your post.I do have 'Neopolitan mouse'its on my collections list 5th from the bottom,
but you are correct about 'Hic-up pup'I did forget that title and it needs to be put on my wish list.
About duplicate titles etc.I will send you an e-mail shortly....Regards Dave.
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 16, 2016, 12:55 PM:
 
David,

I bought these movies a long time ago.
I also have video with beautiful images and not censored them.

If you do not know I can try to put them on Youtube and send you the links.

Tell me if you agree.
 
Posted by David Watson (Member # 3614) on September 16, 2016, 01:52 PM:
 
Hello Antoine, thanks for your post,if you can put them on
'you tube' that would be good, and very interesting.
many thanks in advance.
Regards Dave...
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 16, 2016, 02:01 PM:
 
David,
OK,

Tomorrow and Sunday I'll be gone! Monday I'll take care of films to put on youtube.
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 16, 2016, 02:55 PM:
 
Antione, you have a few titles mentioned twice do you have doubles or just an accident?
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 16, 2016, 03:57 PM:
 
Just a accident
 
Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on September 16, 2016, 04:19 PM:
 
I didn't see zoot cat on anybody's list unless I overlooked it I have it but in 16mm was this ever released in super 8?

[ June 23, 2017, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Jim Schrader ]
 
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on September 17, 2016, 06:32 AM:
 
Much intimidated,I am listing here my teenie-weenie Tom and Jerry collection!

SATURDAY EVENING PUSS MGM
CAT NAPPING "
CRUISE CAT "
JOHANN MOUSE "
NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS "
MILLION DOLLAR CAT "
DESIGNS ON JERRY "
CASANOVA CAT "
QUIET PLEASE "
JERRY AND JUMBO "
MOUSE TROUBLES "
TWO MOUSEKETEERS "
LITTLE ORPHAN "
CAT CONCERTO "
TEE FOR TWO "
HIS MOUSE FRIDAY Walton
TRUCE HURTS "
DR JEKYL AND MR MOUSE "
TENNIS CHAMPS "
MILKY WAIF "
MOUSE COMES TO DINNER "
POSSE CAT "
JERRY AND THE GOLDFISH "
LOVE THAT PUP "
MOUSE IN THE HOUSE Derann
BOWLING ALLEY CAT "
HEAVENLY PUSS "
SLEEPY TIME TOM "
FLIRTY BIRDIE "
CUE BALL CAT "
POLKA DOT PUSS "
NIT-WITTY KITTY "
SOLID SERENADE "
PROFESSOR TOM "
OLD ROCKING CHAIR TOM "
SALT WATER TABBY "
DUCK DOCTOR "
TEXAS TOM "
SAFETY SECOND "
MISSING MOUSE "
INVISIBLE MOUSE "
LITTLE QUACKER
TOM AND JERRY IN THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL "
SPRINGTIME FOR THOMAS "
TRIPLET TROUBLE "
DOWNBEAT BEAR Derann cinemascope
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING " "
FLYING SORCERESS " "
FEEDIN' THE KIDDIE " "
HAPPY GO DUCKY " "
TOPS WITH POPS " "
TOM AND CHERIE " "
ROBIN HOODWINKED " "
TIMID TUBBY Cineavision,Cinemascope
PUP ON A PICNIC "
TOUCHE'PUSSYCAT "
PET PEEVE "
SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING "
MUSCLE BEACH TOM ? Cinemascope
PUSS GETS THE BOOT Red Fox
DOG TROUBLE "
LIFE WITH TOM Film Office
THE FLYING CAT "
TRAP HAPPY "
PECOS PEST Real Film
CAT FISHING "
JERRY AND THE LION ? (italian)
FIT TO BE TIED Steve Villarino (?)
CAT'S MEOUCH "
BABY BUTCH ?

Antoine,CAT ABOVE... is not an MGM copy. They did not release Chuck Jones cartoons.
 
Posted by David Watson (Member # 3614) on September 17, 2016, 08:00 AM:
 
Hello Panayotis, thanks for posting your 'Tom & Jerry'
collection it's not so teenie weenie you have 70 or more
that's a good collection I promise you, keep on looking some more will come to light I'am sure
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 17, 2016, 04:38 PM:
 
( For PANAYOTIS:
CAT ABOVE... well edited by MGM to the movie below.)

CAT ABOVE THE MOUSE BELOW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttV2YYSAT0s

BODYGUARD:
https://gloria.tv/video/GpUnHTJimsbU46w7zopuYzvyo

HIC CUP PUP:
https://gloria.tv/video/QPJvg8WXJvFr2JFsbsHhfV4xw
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 17, 2016, 11:09 PM:
 
Antoine,

Thanks for your details.

When I am asking company release, I am more asking who released it on 8mm.

I have several MGM releases they have M-xx cat#. Do the three TJ s above also have this cat#?

And how is it packed....in the MGM common box with black bar on the top and colorful picture from the scene on the bottom?

Cheers,
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 18, 2016, 02:07 AM:
 
Wimbert,

My three films are in white cardboard boxes as these films have been bought second-hand on Ebay
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 18, 2016, 02:16 AM:
 
Hi Antoine...it is inteesting.

I want to know even deeper... pls allow me to ask more.

How is the title card...is it in English title or other languages?
 
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on September 18, 2016, 02:44 AM:
 
Antoine, I don't know what do you mean by "...well edited by MGM to the movie below..." What I meant was that MGM,or MGM/Ken) did not release the Chuck Jones (or,for that matter the Gene Deitch) Tom and Jerry cartoons in 8 mm. Other companies did.
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 18, 2016, 02:52 AM:
 
Panayotis

When the movie starts there is the MGM logo. Isn't it?
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 18, 2016, 03:05 AM:
 
Antoine...if you have a google account then reupload the same file on google drive and share the link here.
 
Posted by Antoine Orsero (Member # 41) on September 18, 2016, 03:13 AM:
 
YouTube forbade me this video because of the copyright. I place elsewhere and I will keep you informed!
 
Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on September 18, 2016, 10:11 AM:
 
As Winbert said,we are concerned about what company released the films in 8 mm. Of course we know they were produced by MGM and every film produced by MGM features the MGM logo in the beginning. Here the fact is that Ken/MGM during the time they were releasing Tom and Jerry cartoons in super 8,released only Tom and Jerry cartoons produced by Fred Quimby and directed by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera and no Tom and Jerry cartoons produced by Chuck Jones and directed by Jones or Abe Levitow and no Tom and Jerry cartoons produced by William Snyder and directed by Gene Deitch. If I reverse your thinking,the Tom and Jerry cartoons released in 8 mm by Film Office,that feature no original titles and no MGM logo, may not be MGM cartoons!!
 
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on September 28, 2016, 02:56 PM:
 
Just received another T & J which i spotted on ebay for £8.99 + p+p. The title is The flying cat, although advertised as a rare title i cant say i am aware of if its rare or not but i hadn't noticed this title before, so at this price i did the buy it now and am pleased to say it is a really great print, excellent colours with no fade and the box is also in excellent condition.
Maybe someone on here could tell me who released this one, its full and uncut.
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Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on September 28, 2016, 03:50 PM:
 
A nice later Derann print there at an unprecedented bin price!
Well done my friend..enjoy! [Wink]
 
Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 28, 2016, 04:29 PM:
 
Another excellent Derann release Tom with the same cover, is "Smarty Cat". Its well worth getting, as its the only T/J cartoon I can think of, that features Tom and his pals watching his "home movies"

Derann released it brand new and the colour and sound is simply stunning [Cool] [Smile]
 
Posted by Oemer Yalinkilic (Member # 86) on October 02, 2016, 04:04 AM:
 
Hi guys,
You all have a great collection.
I don´t have any Tom and Jerry on 8mm or 16mm, but few months ago I bought a 35mm IB Tech. Cinemascope Tom and Jerry. It is "The Tot Watchers" from 1958. I bought it, because it is one of them with Perspecta Stereo sound. I have a perspecta integrator to run them with perspecta sound, but I didn´t test my equipment yet.
My question, are the perspecta Tom and Jerry cartoons ever relesased in Super 8 with a Stereo sound?
 
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 02, 2016, 04:13 AM:
 
I have quite a few Super 8mm T&J prints from different distributors including some of the later Derann released prints.

I don't believe any of the ones I have were ever recorded in stereo though. Scope.. yes, but I don't recall seeing stereo scope badge on any.

I don't have anywhere near as many as some of these guys here within this thread though, so maybe they could tell us otherwise?
 
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on October 04, 2016, 03:55 AM:
 
I officially announce now that I take back the number 1 position as I just received (with the helps of a forum member who sold them) 9 TJs that are not in my list:

TJ103 Framed Cat, The
TJ104 Just Ducky
TJ105 Mouse in the House
TJ106 Nit Witty Kitty
TJ107 Slicked Up Pup
TJ108 Puppy Tale
TJ109 Springtime for Thomas
TJ110 Touché, Pussy Cat!
TJ111 Two Little Indians

[Big Grin] [Wink] [Razz]

With this I have now 111 titles and need the following to achieve the ultimate collector status:

1. Duel Personality 1966
2. Jerry's Diary 1949
3. Little School Mouse 1954
4. Muscle Beach Tom 1956
5. Neapolitan Mouse 1954
6. Puss 'N' Toots 1942
7. Vanishing Duck 1958
8. Haunted Mouse
9. Hic-cup Pup
10. Cat Above The Mouse Below, The
11. Bodyguard, The

cheers,
 
Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on June 28, 2018, 03:13 PM:
 
Just purchased two more Tom and Jerry cartoons released by Derann and in re-reading this thread thought I'd bump it back into the present because this is a great example of the dedication collectors put into this hobby. Winbert's Walton box art is better than Walton's original and the lists from other collectors are an inspiration. Perhaps I will get to these dizzy heights some day...
 


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