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Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 16, 2017, 05:21 PM:

Because I was out of the Super 8 collecting game for so long, there's a gaping hole in my knowledge of released Derann feature films on Super 8 from 1983 to 2011. I've done extensive research online, but can only find reference to certain titles, and gleaned what I can from this great forum.

Does anyone have an electronic list they have compiled, or is there a resource online that I might be missing? (I've seen the BFCC individual title reviews page, but that seems to be the most comprehensive record I've found so far.)

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 16, 2017, 07:11 PM:

The Derann catalogues themselves offer you the most overall comprehensive guide so far as features are concerned.
There are those that can still be seen on Steve Osbornes site on top and further prints that originated from Germany. Overall though Martin, you wont be far off the mark by spending a good few hours scrolling the pages of the Derann catalogues over the years.

The double disc Pinewood trip dvd dedicated the entire second disc to electronic data surrounding the Derann catalogues etc.

Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 17, 2017, 02:32 AM:

Thanks, Andrew. Yes, it would be great to see Derann catalogues, but I'm sure they're as rare as the films themselves. What is the title of the 2-disc Pinewood trip? I couldn't see that on the BFCC website.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 17, 2017, 02:39 AM:

Martin it was the one sold at the last Blackpool convention around the time of release.

I will try and find the discussion on here surrounding it and post a link for it if I can.
I was in work last night so couldn't remember the full title of it but I have it in front of me now and its full title is..

Derann At Pinewood.
2 disc Remastered Special Edition.

Includes an after dinner speech by Peter Rogers of Carry On fame.

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=011069# 000000

http://www.amcs12sales.co.uk/

Posted by David Skillern (Member # 607) on May 17, 2017, 02:42 AM:

hi Martin,

the 2 disc remastered special edition is called Derann at Pinewood - I bought mine at the Blackpool Convention last November - David Guest was selling them. I also believe that Barry Attwood from Independent 8 has copies for sale. Worth getting hold of for the Derann and other catalogues on Disc 2 and the amusing after dinner speech from Peter Rogers on Disc 1 - of course there are other gems on disc one including Derann on TV.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on May 17, 2017, 02:51 AM:

Archive.org does have a copy of a set of the Derann webb site including the films they had available at the time. Not all the films they ever released but it is a start.

It is here https://web.archive.org/web/20061026204554/http://www.derann.co.uk/ click on the Super 8 tab for the categories.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 17, 2017, 03:56 AM:

I have a lot of Derann Catalogues in my printed matter
archive going back as far as the late 1960s.
Also hundreds of original newsletters and sales lists too.

I am natural hoarder and have others from Walton,Powell Films,
P.M.Films , Columbia , Watso Films , Mountain , Capitol , Republic , Rank Movie Paks , Castle Films , Walt Disney ,
Perry's Movies , Regent Films and many more.

I started collecting around 1966/67. So got into a habit of
picking them up or ordering them via mail order.
I would peruse them and dream over the titles available.

[Smile]

Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 17, 2017, 05:28 AM:

Great information, everyone, thanks. Clearly I need to buy that DVD.

Brian, web.archive.org was identified by Sky Broadband as a potential hacking site, so blocked it. I can override it, but is it safe to the best of your knowledge?

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 17, 2017, 05:41 AM:

When I purchased my own set of these discs I had issues with my first copy accessing the the disc with the catalogues on it.
I understood this was unlikely to open using a standard DVD player as the files obviously were not in DVD format but I couldn't even open it on my pc for some bizarre unknown reason.
Anyhow I was supplied with two extra discs for free as a result which both opened perfectly.

If you would like one of these Martin, you're welcome to it but it won't come in a case and it won't have the DVD itself with it as I only have my own one copy of this disc but if you would just want the catalogue disc, then one can be yours Martin.

Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 17, 2017, 06:22 AM:

Yes, that would be fantastic Andrew, thanks! Shall I send you PM with address?

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on May 17, 2017, 08:56 AM:

Martin. I have had no trouble with archive.org, but as they seem to archive as much of the web as possible I assume they have some suspect site info archived as well as good. That might be why you get the warning.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 17, 2017, 07:27 PM:

Yes Martin, please send me your address privately by whichever means and I will post one out to you in the next two days. [Smile]

Just this second tried one of the discs for you Martin and it worked perfectly, 1978 right up to the subliminal 1992 catalogue.
(I think I may have an actual paper edition from later than this also, The Disney contract had only just begun in 1992 so the later one I have features much much more).

Plus plenty of others also on this disc, from Marketing Films etc etc.

Read through this lot and you'll not be far off the mark and I guarantee, hooked forever the more you find and purchase the later they appear! [Wink]

Though the catalogues in themselves are superb, back these up with a full set of their magazines FFTC, and everything more or less is covered, right up until "End Of Days" etc.
This includes equipment, tech tips, readers writes and reviews at the time of release plus plenty of other articles and advertisements from the era [Smile]

Truly fascinating reading of the history of this once great company and everything anyone left in this hobby actively, needs ever to know!

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 18, 2017, 03:16 AM:

Dave Hardy,would it be too much to ask you to scan for us,if there is interest,or me,(most interested), the Watsofilms catalogues?

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 18, 2017, 03:22 AM:

Good idea Panayotis. I'm not sure they feature on the above mentioned disc. [Smile]

I too, would love to see these. [Smile]

(Walton Films Catalogues and Watsofilms Catalogues in my own case)

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 18, 2017, 04:01 AM:

Panayotis and Andrew.

Sorry guys I cant do that at the moment as I don't have a scanner or even a printer just now.
My last one went faulty and I have not yet bought a new one.

However when I do get one I will get back to you. Some of these old catalogues are very large with loads of pages so it will take some time. [Smile]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 18, 2017, 04:32 AM:

Ok David, I look forward to the time when you are able to scan or even photograph these thanks.

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on May 18, 2017, 06:54 AM:

Hi Martin,

If you are looking for DERANN Mains Catalogs I have already put them here for free download.

They were scan to higher DPI level available for best picture quality.

If you are interested let me know to put them here again.

Phil

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 18, 2017, 07:11 AM:

Phil, I believe not all those covered on the disc made it to print here.
If Martin is happy enough with just the ones you placed here, then that would however save me the job of posting this disc out to Martin.

Please advise your preference here Martin.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on May 18, 2017, 09:40 AM:

The Watsofilms 16mm catalogue measures 10" x 7.5", and comprises 253 pages.
Producing a scan would be very much a labour of love.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 18, 2017, 09:53 AM:

We do "Labour of Love" here Maurice. [Big Grin]

Isn't that after all, what this entire hobby can be at times!

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on May 18, 2017, 09:57 AM:

Absolutely Maurice,

It tooks me lot of time to scan DERANN Catalogues due to the definition level used with the Scanner.

I had to split them in different PDF files first and to assemble them with a PDF assembler tool......

Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 18, 2017, 10:19 AM:

Yes, Phil, that would be fantastic if you could put them on here. And that would save you postage, Andrew, as you say. (I will almost certainly purchase the two-disc Pinewood DVD in the future anyway.)

Thanks so much to both of you.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 18, 2017, 10:19 AM:

Maurice you are right there. My Watso Films catalogues are huge!
I have more than one from different years the thought of doing scans is a mammoth task ahead ... GULP !!!

The synopsis inside them of some rare and forgotten titles is
a mine of information.

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on May 18, 2017, 10:35 AM:

Here it is Martin,

D87 / D90 / D92

3 files to Download in "one shot", around 64 MO Total

Download is open untill Jun 1st 2017.

Unfortunately I haven't the last(s) Derann Catalogue(s), after 92

Enjoy it

Phil

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 18, 2017, 11:08 AM:

There's quite a lot from far earlier also Phil.

It would be great if the FFTC magazines could also be digitilzed nowadays. I have many of them but am missing just a few from a full set.

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on May 18, 2017, 01:04 PM:

I am interested mainly in the 8mm Watsofilms catalogues as many times I have found rare titles in those sturdy brown boxes,not available elsewhere. Were there separate catalogues for 8 and 16 mm?

Posted by Martin Dew (Member # 5748) on May 19, 2017, 06:40 AM:

I've downloaded the files, Phil. Many thanks again.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 19, 2017, 07:05 AM:

Good idea regarding FFTC but would there not be a problem with copyright ?

You might have to contact Adrian Simmonds and Keith Wilton and
others first.

I almost have the complete run of FFTC. Only missing # 1-6.
[Smile]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 19, 2017, 07:50 AM:

I don't suppose they would mind in this day and age now David, but yes of course permission would need to be granted.

At the end of the day, people are putting the catalogues into pdf formats now, so why not any other of their memorabilia including flyers, used lists etc etc.?

Surely it is better these things are archived for prosperity rather than gone forever as these things get skipped as rubbish over the years by our less enthusiastic relatives and the likes.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 19, 2017, 08:40 AM:

I also have a lot of leaflets and newsletters and other stuff.

I have been emailed by a forum member who kindly offered to
transfer my catalogues onto a disc if I sent them on to him.

However I had to decline his offer due to the fact I don't
want to risk getting them lost in the post as a lot of them
are very rare and have been with me since the 1960s and beyond.

If I was to do a disc transfer I would do it locally of course.

I already have 13 x A4 Box files full of this stuff plus a couple
of large boxes and bags yet to be filed.

[Smile]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 19, 2017, 09:50 AM:

We will all chip in to get you a scanner David. You can get em for about twenty quid these days! [Big Grin]

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on May 19, 2017, 09:58 AM:

Andrew you had better pay me for my time too ! [Big Grin]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 19, 2017, 11:27 AM:

It's all just a Labour of Love this lot here.
Never forget that David! [Big Grin]

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on July 15, 2017, 10:37 AM:

Hi Jon,

Upon your request, here is 3 Catalogues ready to download untill July 29th:

D87 / D90 / D92

Enjoy it

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 15, 2017, 12:20 PM:

Thank you, Phil!

I first became a Derann customer back in 2002, so I never saw one of their catalogs. They started out as a website to me.

I was a little annoyed that they sold only sound films since up until then I had been collecting silents only. I puzzled over it about two weeks, bit the bullet and bought my first sound projector. Today I can't imagine it being any other way: The audio end of film collecting is basically my favorite part now.

For a lot of people this will bring back the good old days. For me it's the even better days I missed out on!

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on July 15, 2017, 12:43 PM:

Hello Steve,

Unfortunately, I get only these 3 Catalogs......

If one day or an other I can get the issues which follow, I scan them immediatly.

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