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Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 13, 2007, 05:04 PM:

Where can I buy sprocket repair tape here in the uk?

Thanks, Kev.

Posted by John Whittle (Member # 22) on December 14, 2007, 08:49 AM:

Kev,

While I can't answer your direct question, have you considered making your own? All these guys did was take the 3m 16mm double perf splicng tape and slit the perfs off the edge. One side would be "A" wind and the other side would be "B" wind (Cinebug and Perfix machines each took a different wind of tape).

I haven't tried this myself, but I wonder if you mounted a roll of splicng tape on a small hobby lathe and used an Xacto knife to cut through the tape to the core if you could make up your own.

John

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 14, 2007, 11:31 AM:

Thanks for the info John, much appreciated. I see that Urbanski sells rolls but I must be able to find some here in the UK with some luck.
Does this method work well? I have a film where there is quite a lot of damage with the old loop restorer working overtime in the CL. The are some sections where there is damaged sprockets for as much as 6 frames.

Kev.

Posted by John Whittle (Member # 22) on December 15, 2007, 01:53 PM:

Some may have had better luck that I, but I find the repair often tends to "walk" on the screen moving slightly because of the new sprocket hole position on the repair tape.

Other technqiues include notching out the bad piece of film leaving as much of the perf in place as possible. This of course depends on the type of damage. Sometimes a gentle iron application will help reform a bent piece--but be careful.

Of course we don't have the options of ordering replacement footage and the only other "cure" is to cut it out.

John

Posted by Simon McConway (Member # 219) on December 16, 2007, 04:25 PM:

Try Jack Roe (www.cinemasupplies.co.uk) who have branches in both the UK & The USA. I have priced up such tape from them, but it's not cheap! However, if it'll save a 16 mm feature, then it's worth it!

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 17, 2007, 08:30 AM:

Thanks Simon I will give them a try.

Kev.

Posted by Den Brown (Member # 819) on December 20, 2007, 02:23 PM:

http://www.philiprigby.co.uk/pages/browsecat-detail.php?detail=189

Posted by Ian John (Member # 507) on December 29, 2007, 06:36 PM:

Hi Kev,

Paul Foster sells it. Super 8mm £1.99 per roll, 16mm £2.49 per roll. Here is the url.

http://www.fosterfilms.co.uk/accessories.htm

Hope that helps.

Ian.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 30, 2007, 05:00 AM:

Thanks Ian, but isn't that just straight forward splicing tape? The other problem is finding a splicer at reasonable cost to take that tape.

I will email Paul and see what he says.

Kev.

Posted by Andy Oliver (Member # 604) on December 31, 2007, 10:42 AM:

I purhased a pack of these from the USA a couple of weeks back, ok there for std 8, any use??? Let me know, btw, how many perfs are damaged??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Splicing-Tape-for-8mm-Film-Home-Movies_W0QQitemZ370008925367QQihZ024QQcategoryZ83878QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on January 01, 2008, 09:56 AM:

kevin let me check with an outfit here in the us as they might have some if not how much are you looking for?

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on January 02, 2008, 11:36 AM:

Thanks Jim. I will have to check the film and let you know but at the start for the first 10mins it looses it's loop loads of times.

Kev.

Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on January 02, 2008, 11:45 PM:

Kevin, as John mentions, there was a company in the 1970's and 80's called Perfix. They sold tape and a machine for both 16mm and 35mm perforation repairs.

It was aimed at the beat up prints we used to get at drive-ins and grindhouses. I think they made tape and machines for Super 8 and 70 as well, at least they planned to. They advertised in Box Office magazine. Worth doing a search as I am sure stock would still exist.

I recall 35mm drive-in prints like Flesh Gordon that had no perfs intact down one side of a reel for several feet at a time! Good old Centurys still ran it though.

We also had 35mm shorts that were so bad the perfs split as you wound them. We did very extensive repairs with tape splicers that were more than satisfactory.

I have repaired some 16mm prints with folded splicing tape and a CIR (the best) splicer. As John mentions these repairs always had some tendancy to walk a little, but if you have a projector with good lateral guides it can be kept to a minimum.

David

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on January 03, 2008, 05:17 AM:

Thanks for the info guys. Kev.

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on January 03, 2008, 10:46 AM:

Kev I checked with the place I get my stuff at and they used to carry it but do not any longer but there is a place I found a place in europe that has some for about 28.3794GBP here is the site http://www.janssenfilm.com/en/5-0.htm it is about half way down the page, hope it works.here is another site in the UK http://www.pec.co.uk/media/wtP4.html
I do have some but not as much as you need sorry [Frown]

Posted by Jim Carlile (Member # 812) on January 15, 2008, 03:24 AM:

It looks like this might be something you'll need to get in the States. Urbanski has it, so does Christy's Editorial Film Supply in L.A., every different wind possible:

http://store.christys.net/shop/advanced_search_result.php?sessId=D96BFE06A5D52304EEF93F4F71756E49&page=5&keywords=sprocket+repair+tape&search_in_description=1&inc_subcat=1

It's actually pretty cheap for you guys-- our terrible dollar-- and I believe the roll length is ample enough.

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