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Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on April 08, 2018, 06:35 PM:
If there is one thing that really irritates me about mobile phone users when they use it to shoot moving images, is that they insist on filming it with the phone in a vertical position! AAAGGGHHH!!!
How many times have you seen this footage used on news items and thought your TV has had a malfunction because the image ratio is something like 1:0.3 with the huge black bits either side of a skinny picture?
Don't these people realise that by using the phone horizontally, on gets the picture the same size as the TV or computer screen and is much larger?
Is it ignorance, or are they all just being sheep and following a trend?

Sorry to moan too much but this is something that really winds me up and I thought this was the best place to let off front of people who DO know something about moving pictures!
Posted by Allan Broadfield (Member # 2298) on April 08, 2018, 07:15 PM:
It's been called 'vertical video syndrome' in some quarters and drives me loopy too!
After watching a dramatic (but squashed up) news event sent in by a viewer, a Sky news presenter once appealed for contributors to remember that we now watch widescreen tv!
Is it so hard to hold the phone horizontally?
Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on April 08, 2018, 08:18 PM:
I call it. “Idiot-box”

The opposite of letter boxing
Posted by Bryan Chernick (Member # 1998) on April 08, 2018, 08:26 PM:
There’s an app for that, it only shoots in the Horizontle format no matter how you hold the phone.
Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 08, 2018, 10:01 PM:
There’s an app for that, it only shoots in the Horizontle format no matter how you hold the phone.
This is a simple matter that none of the mobile phone creators have thought about it.

Did you know that you CANNOT move your notes made in an Android phone?

I just found out it today when I was getting a new phone and all notes I made in my old phones cannot be moved or copied to a new phone. A very strange indeed, when we can move contacts, passwords, settings, etc to a new phone but not memo.

A special app is now available to do that simple job.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on April 09, 2018, 02:27 AM:
I suspect most people mainly use this facility on their camera phones for "talking head" video messages and forget when using for other purposes.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on April 09, 2018, 06:36 AM:
I have my own opinion on mobile phones and the "some", (quite a few actually), of the people who use them 24/7 and break out in hives if they are without it for an hour. Like social networking,they are turning many people into simpletons.
I recently watched a David Attenbrough programme about sharks, he stated an interesting fact, (bearing in mind peoples perception about sharks is that they are dangerous and when one attacks for one reason or another they send out crews to kill it).
He said last year more people were killed taking a selfie than by sharks.

At an Ennio Morriconie concert two years ago, we were sat on the second tier of seats, when the concert started, you should have seen all the lights from mobile screens light up on the ground level, hundreds, and many did not go out as they watched the concert on there pathetic little screens. How sad is that? [Wink]
Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on April 09, 2018, 08:14 AM:
My thoughts are that most mobile phone users are too young to ever have used, or seen, home movie equipment. Therefore, they just hold it as they would for any other use of the phone.
Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on April 09, 2018, 08:39 AM:
In my case it's simply because the iPhone is easier to securely hold in a vertical position when using one hand...Of course if it's something I want to save or is important I use two hands...
Posted by William Olson (Member # 2083) on April 09, 2018, 08:53 PM:
One of my pet peeves.
Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 09, 2018, 09:59 PM:
I'd guess that the people who do this rarely, if ever, watch the images on anything other than their phone, as I'd hope that the absurdity of the format would get through to them if they used a monitor or TV screen that they are used to seeing 'normal' pictures on.
Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on April 21, 2018, 12:27 PM:
Posted by Daniel Macarone (Member # 5102) on April 21, 2018, 07:01 PM:
It bothers me too and I wish the video camera on phones would only shoot horizontal even if it's held vertical. Vertical frame just shouldn't be allowed in moving images.
Posted by Richard Whitman (Member # 5849) on April 23, 2018, 01:17 PM:
Just say no to vertical videos!
Posted by Nantawat Kittiwarakul (Member # 6050) on April 26, 2018, 11:58 PM:
Simply put,they just don't get it. No matter how many hours of attempt explaining this to them,they just don't have any clue about what you explained,period. [Roll Eyes]

Maybe they're just the same breed as those who insist watching 4:3 ratio content on widescreen tv by stretching it to the full screen,sort of.
Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on April 27, 2018, 11:17 AM:
Nantawat - That is the other thing that really irritates me! You hit the nail on the head! If I had thought about it, I would have included that in my first post, but you have beaten me to it! Thanks for bringing it up!
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on April 27, 2018, 12:29 PM:
BBC news has just had a reporter asking people their virws on what should be the main voting points for the upcoming local elections. He pointed a camera-phone a them for their reply, even though he was being covered by an ENG camera an the results were vertical. I give up, with examples like that no wonder copy.
Posted by Reese Williams (Member # 6432) on May 03, 2018, 08:10 AM:
they just don't get it [Frown]
Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on May 07, 2018, 12:06 PM:
Artificial intelligence has taken over their brains as predicted. Ken Finch. [Roll Eyes]

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