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  • #16
    Not familiar with that model Dom. Any relation to Meopta? Looks quite similar to the Rank Aldis though.
    Terry

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    • #17
      It is a Meopta proprojector. I know that another Meopta model has also been converted to 9.5 but I have no Idea how many machines in total were switched from 16 mm to the Pathé gauge. So far, the most conversions I have seen are Eiki projectors.

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      • #18
        Yes Dom I think Eiki were the most popular but I have seen 9.5 conversions on a Debrie D16 and an RCA Hollywood which offer easier film lacing. I have a very nice Buckingham but I always find threading around the sound drum very fiddly. I suppose any 16mm projector could be converted in the hands of a competent engineer. (Sadly not me😒)

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        • #19
          I guess so, as well. Some super 8 projecteurs were also converted to 9.5 but I only know three models so that must be a more difficult task.

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          • #20
            Another French sound film : Jacques et Jacotte (1936). One of the main actors, Roger Tréville, died at the age of 102.

            Back to the projector, I took two pictures to show how the path of the film. It looks complicated the two or three times but once you're used to it, it's ok. There is a system that stops the projector abruptly when the film breaks, which I don't like but, surprinsingly, everything goes fine and it's reliable. As seen on the third picture, there is no system to hyde the soundtrack, so I put a tape (I have black tape "somewhere" so once it surfaces again from my bric Ă  brac -thanks Steve for having used this expression in another thread, so I know you use it in English as well- I will improve the look by replacing the brown tape).

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            • #21
              That sounds very much like the Rank Aldis safety system where a break in the film stops the projector. A Good idea but I never liked the Projector personally. Similarly I did not like the Bolex 321 for exactly different reasons. That projector, although beautifully engineered, just did not stop when switched off. It just slowed down to an eventual stop, which to my mind would cause unnecessary damage to film. A poor judgment from a manufacturer of top quality Cine equipment.

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              • #22
                Sounds very much like the Rank Aldis system where a break in the film shuts down the projector. A good idea but I never liked the projector. Similarly I never liked the Bolex 321 for different reasons. When switched off it would gently slow down rather than stop, which to my mind could cause irreparable damage to film. Projectors are mostly replaceable- films are sometimes not.








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                • #23
                  Looks smashing Dom.
                  9-5 is so wonderful both filming and projecting. This year I'll be missing my 9-5 sound cartoon show to a couple of youth organisations due to lock up. Mentioned before but the greatest fun was to see the children watching DIZZY DIVERS sound Popeye cartoon and I've never seen kids so transfixed on a cartoon or Pathe Vox projector. They loved it and never fails to entertain every time. I will really miss the shows this Christmas out and about but hopefully return in 2021.

                  The old Pathe Vox has always had a reputation for being very kind to film. Simple film path and design they were onto a winner. I had more problems with a Super Vox than a standard one over the years with the gears so its a standard Vox every time for me. Unbelievable to think the Vox is now over 80 years old and people are still projecting and upgrading them. My best one looks pretty mint with a transistor amp in and a 150 W Halogen lamp having removed most of the innards to make it a light weight. Had a few Elf projectors but so brutal to 9-5 films and as mentioned once wrecked you cant replace them.

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                  • #24
                    A 1939 (sound) film : Ils étaient 9 célibataires (They Were 9 Bachelors). A new law regarding foreigners in France gives the idea to someone to found an institution for homeless French men so that foreign ladies can get married quickly...

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                    • #25
                      Watched some S8 in lunch break then switched on the Pathe Vox watching WEST OF INVERNESS Our trip to Scotland was cancelled this year so look forward to 2021 to get up there again. Nice to see the film tho.

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                      • #26
                        West of Inverness short a smashing film.
                        Something in the City. Richard Hearne stars of course and only printed on 9.5 sound in limited numbers late in the day.
                        My Vox performed effortlessly on this 3 x 900ft movie and it contains some shots you wont find on the DVD.

                        As per usual we end with a Popeye and our dear Queen.

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                        • #27
                          Some years ago in the annals of film at home I found a odd 16mm reel from Wizard of Oz. At the time I was getting interested in perforating film to 9.5mm. We do these things.
                          Anyway, a kind soul perforated it for me to 9.5mm also slitting it to correct width. The sound track is on the wrong side but with care and a watchful eye I can project it with a film twist to put the sound on the correct side.
                          Colour has shifted but not bad and a nice nostalgic watch on my 80 year old Vox projector.

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                          • #28
                            I have a few 9.5 sound films reperfored from 16 mm, as well. They were perfect for my Ligonie (the sound is reversed) but bad witch cursed the projector and only the magnetic sound is working at the moment (when I'll be able to travel to Paris, I'll bring it with me to have it fix). I can still project reperfored films correctly on my Buckingham with a mirrored accessory set in front of the lens.

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                            • #29
                              On mine I run a longer loop with a twist to read the sound track, just about get away with it.

                              Great 9-5 has survived and I guess its probably due to the centre perf. We have some great friends around the world and my goodness we have had some fun.

                              Anyone can start a little home cinema with a KID projector and a few films. Pierre and myself used to take one with us and run a cartoon or three when away at events if out socialising. Great memories.


                              Watched Q Ships today, part on S8 and the other half on 9.5 sound. Astounding they used the Pathescope titled film for 8mm.
                              Ended with one of my colour home movies moved at Whitby. Velvia = beauty on screen.

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                              • #30
                                Bit of a lack of 9-5 films being watched it seems so we have a bit of a mini festival using my beloved Pathe Vox all sound films.

                                Steve steps out
                                Not Now Betty Boop
                                Dizzy Divers Popeye
                                Harlem Holiday
                                Variety reel no 1 Joe Loss
                                Ocean Tempest
                                High Hazard English rock climbing

                                Feature Dangerous Years with a young Marilyn Monroe. Quite a rare 9-5 film this one.

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