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  • Bank Vichyothin
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    Thanks for the post. I guess the later model of Elmo 16-F you mentioned is located on the right. The one I'm getting looks exactly like this one and I think it's very hard to find the early production model that you own. So I think I'd better train myself to replace the gear
    Last edited by Bank Vichyothin; September 22, 2024, 03:18 AM.

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  • Nantawat Kittiwarakul
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    To my understanding, in USA & Europe the Elmo 16-F series wasn't so popular and harder to find than Eiki but...

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    If you happened to come across this one especially the early production, which utilizes CIRCULATED OIL LUBRICATION SYSTEM (much like its 35mm counterparts) - the only 16mm portable projector I know of that had this feature, just go get it! And unlike the later model its gear train will never crack (different material, bakelite - like gear).​
    No doubt that it's heavy & noisy, but as long as there're some oil in the reservoir & enough grease on the gear, it will outlast you (and possibly your descandant) with ease.

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    The later model while have similar layout, but with several "improvements" inside. You'll get faster lens & better halogen lamp thus brigher image. It's whisper-quiet, but at the cost of "downgrading" to conventional sealed grease-lubed intermittent tank and its quirky nylon gear train which will eventually crack & break apart. I'm super fortunate to find one with still-intact gear. No doubt that I'll keep this one with me until the rest of time.


    PS thanks Douglas Meltzerfor your English translation in my original post. Much appreciated!

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  • Bank Vichyothin
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    thank you, it's very helpful for me to decide.. I think Elmo is the better choice ....ขอบคุณมากครับสำหรับข้อมูล

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  • Nantawat Kittiwarakul
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    Elmo 16F series: แข็งแรง/ทน/ถึก กลไกซับซ้อนนิดนึง การซ่อมจะยากกว่าหน่อย รุ่นหลังๆมีจุดอ่อนคือเฟืองไนล่อนที่จะแตก&เสื่อมสภา พตามอายุขัยเป็นส่วนใหญ่เลยครับ
    Eiki: กลไกเรียบง่าย ชิ้นส่วนไม่มาก ระบบไม่ซับซ้อน ซ่อมได้ไม่ยากครับ ข้อเสียคือระบบ autoload ที่ไม่ 100% เท่าไหร่ ความทะนุถนอมฟิล์มไม่สู้ Elmo ครับ

    PS - sorry for others. Can't resist using my local language with member from the same country with me.


    Elmo 16F series: strong/resistant/tough The mechanism is a bit complicated. Repairs will be a little more difficult. Later models have a weak point which is the nylon gear that will break & deteriorate. Mostly according to age.

    Eiki: Simple mechanism Not many parts The system is not complicated. It's not difficult to repair. The downside is the autoload system that isn't 100%. Film preservation isn't as good as Elmo's.​

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  • Bank Vichyothin
    started a topic Elmo 16F vs Eiki RT-0

    Elmo 16F vs Eiki RT-0

    Hi, I am getting another 16mm projector for my collection and cannot decide between Elmo 16F and Eiki RT-0. Anyone have experience on these 2 models can share ideas and thoughts ? Thanks
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