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  • 100th Anniversary of Kodak's 16mm

    As this years Marks the Centenary of Kodak's 16mm film Gauge,
    there are Events in celebration to this Film Format.

    https://centuryof16mm.com/


    Indiana University Libraries’ "Moving Image Archive" (IULMIA) and "The Media School" at IU Bloomington USA,
    have a grant to support the Celebration of 16mm Centenary​.


    https://libraries.indiana.edu/grant-...lm-celebration



  • #2
    Is Kodak still going? Thought they went bankrupt years ago. Perfect way not to run a business.

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    • #3
      Well they Bounced back, gone are Fuji & Agfa 16mm, but Kodak New 16mm Film Stock remains.


      https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/products/camera-films

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      • #4
        Kodak did a good job (too good maybe?) downsizing themselves to survive bankruptcy. Now they're actually having trouble speeding up their production to catch up with increased demand again.

        How long this analog revival would last? I really have no idea however. But my guess is that the market would "oscillate" a few years more, then settled down to the equilibrium.

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        • #5
          Still alive and well then for a wee while. Terrible when you have to drill down a site link to find the price of film only to be confronted with POA.

          Kodak don't really react to anything just walk in the middle of the road and get hit by oncoming traffic. What happened to new 8mm film cameras and stock they were announcing a few years ago or did they go the way of Ferrania crowd funding pyramid scheme.

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          • #6
            Kodak invented digital photography in 1975. They took the short-sided view that since they could make more money with film, let's ignore digital. Film is still being made, but it's price-point has risen so much that they lost the large market that the inexpensive photography they introduced is now gone. Film photography is not dead, but the mass market and the economies of scale are gone. The switch from motion picture production/distribution on film to digital was the final blow.

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            • #7
              Going off topic slightly.
              Kodak, in my opinion, made an excellent little fairly cheap camera with the 126 still camera format, a reasonably sized negative gave quite good results, and its four-sided Magicube was excellent.
              But, Kodak then brought out two poorly designed cameras, one after the other. The 110 format, and the attractive looking, but with useless small negatives , the Disc Camera.
              Both these latter cameras produced poor prints, which showed too much grain.

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              • #8
                The other advantage of 126 was that the film was still 35mm wide so negative development machinery/ spirals for home processing didn't have to be changed.
                126 and disc needed complete refitting - I expect the machinery was bought from Kodak, so they could make more money that way.

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                • #9
                  Ploughing through various past topics on this forum it would appear that Kodak are producing super 8 film again but return the film as a negative together with a digital version of some kind. It would appear to me to be far too expensive to make much progress in this all digital age.Ken Finch.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ken Finch View Post
                    Ploughing through various past topics on this forum it would appear that Kodak are producing super 8 film again but return the film as a negative together with a digital version of some kind. It would appear to me to be far too expensive to make much progress in this all digital age.Ken Finch.
                    No. I think Kodak made the right decision to release Super8 negative stock.
                    - Price per roll is cheaper than reversal stock.
                    - It could be developed in standard process (E6? can't remember at the moment). So any lab in the world can process it.
                    - You can't view it by direct projection of course, but it could be scanned and released in digital realm. We'd have to accept that this is the way for films to live.

                    It's this Kodak negative super8 that make my little scanning service sustainable now, of course.

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                    • #11
                      Think someone else posted that it is ECN2 (EastmanColor Negative) processing for this.

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                      • #12
                        I think you are correct Brian. Back in the days of yore, the E6 processing kits were used for reversal Film stocks and replaced the earlier E4 process. One could buy these kits to do your own processing as well. I suppose you could leave out the reversal stages and then just fix it as a negative but I don’t think there would be much point in doing this for the amateur film maker. Ken Finch.😊

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                        • #13
                          With Western Cinemas forced to leave 16mm / 35mm and go Digital, this caused a dilemma to Kodak around 2013, but what kept them going in Film was countries like India still strong in using 16mm & 35mm.

                          places selling New 16mm film Stock Today are:

                          Kodak Direct World List


                          http://www.kodak.com/content/product...Catalog-US.pdf


                          USA

                          Pro 8mm / 16mm Burbank CA


                          https://www.pro8mm.com/collections/p...-film-packages


                          Fair Lawn NJ

                          https://filmphotographyproject.com/


                          B&H NY

                          https://www.bhphotovideo.com/


                          GERMANY

                          https://www.wittnercinetec.com/


                          And ebay for Fresh Raw Film Stock & Pre Loved Hollywood Movies



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                          • #14
                            "Reel Deals" Magazine has been around now for 30 years, included was a copy of the 1st Issue. And this Current Issue has articles focusing on 16mm Centenary 1932 - 2032. Also is the Annual CATHS Cine Fair & Auction this weekend, which will have a huge 16mm content, more details see.

                            http://reeldeals.com.au/


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                            • #15
                              Call for Entries by Friday 29th September 2023
                              16 X 16 & HMD 16mm Centenary Film Festival

                              Wanted your Amateur or Independent short 16mm Film, categories include, Documentary, Comedy, Travel, Drama & Home Movie etc.
                              We only have the facilities to show 16mm in Silent / Optical Sound. And (PAL,NTSC,SECAM) DVD & Bluray must originate from 16mm, Super 16mm and Ultra 16mm Film Transfer. Accepted on DVD / Bluray or Normal / Micro SD CARD / USB STICK or AVI File via Internet at wetransfer.com
                              (Any original 16mm films must be registered by Post, to avoid being lost). NO ENTRY CHARGE, but if you want your Disc’s or Films returned then you must send Stamps or International Postal Coupons for Return Postage. Entries not returned will be put into the Moving Image Coalition archives.
                              Contact: MIC, P.O. Box 97, Craigieburn, Melbourne, VIC, 3064. Mob/SMS 043 803 6718 or Ph 03 9306 1842 melb-mic@hotmail.com


                              the Screening date will be
                              Saturday 21st October 2023, 2:00pm-4:00pm

                              16 X 16 & HMD Film Screening Includes a 16mm Centenary Display, also Guests are encouraged to Show & Tell on the day their piece of 16mm History. Program will include short independent films by 16mm filmmakers. Also includes Colour Private Home Movies on 16mm Films.
                              Giant Reel Twin Home Cinema
                              Craigieburn, Melbourne, VIC, Australia.
                              Contact: Moving Image Coalition, Mob/SMS 043 803 6718 or Ph 03 93061842 melb-mic@hotmail.com

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