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[Philip Hamilton]

Yes Robert that is correct. I didn’t want anyone to think that the version discussed here was being offered by THE REEL IMAGE.

[Robert Aragon]

Well, if i knew that The Reel Image or any other seller was offering a specific title, I wouldn't offer that title myself.
Even if slightly different, simply out of respect for the other seller.
But that's me.
Besides, there are SO many different possibilities regarding titles.
Why not something solely unavailable anywhere else.

[Osi Osgood]

Phillip explained the rationale behind his version, I believe, but you have to read back a little ways. I know Phillip Personally, we've gotten to be good friends over time, and I know that he wouldn't release an alternate title out of vindictiveness. Personally, I like the idea of different versions of a specific title.

[Robert Aragon]

Well, I still wouldn't. Especially knowing that the Reel Image will be releasing the very same title.
But like I've said, that's just me.

[Philip Hamilton]

. . . Everyone has their own standards to be met, and if owning a “self-made” film version of a film is more important than absolute quality, then certainly there is a way to get the object of one's desires.

But the remarks made by Lee and Ruben are undoubtedly agreeable and to be strongly emphasised, because quality is achieved with a lot of experience, optimised (when professional) equipment and, if we are talking about craftsmanship, also a certain natural talent.

Hello Guido - Thanks for contributing to the discussion! It is always good to have more information. I understand your desire to have the highest quality print whether it is 16mm or Super 8mm and no one can dispute that goal. Quality is achieved with a lot of experience as you have said and with that experience you need the right professional equipment and natural talent and craftsmanship.

However, I want to clarify your comment regarding 'a self-made' film. The implication here is - as some others have said - that the solution provided by Cinetecnica Marino in Italy is somehow a homemade solution similar to someone pointing a Super 8mm camera at a large screen and filming it. That may not have been what you intended to say but others may take it that way. I assure you that the gentlemen who owns Cinetecnica is a professional with 30 years of experience in 16mm, 8mm, and DCP production services.

Their processing of Super 8mm takes place with special professional machines - for example - Gervasi 16 35mm recorders for audio acquisition and a 6 plate intercine moviola for synchronization. Also I understand they use an Arriflex film recorder and do have experience handling 4K software. The owner tells me that most of his equipment has been around since the 1980s and hard to find and maintain.

Cinetecnica is not producing 'home-made' Super 8 prints. They are using professional equipment with some natural talent and craftsmanship to produce these prints for hobbyists and collectors - like me.

Super 8mm is a passionate hobby for many of us and having choices is a good thing. And it is OK to prefer one process over another. Like I said they produce slightly different results from what ANDEC may offer.

Below is an image of the kind of equipment used for sound recording:

[Osi Osgood]

That's cool! I'd love to see more of his equipment, not that I don't already trust in his work.🙂 There have a number of people who have made out the Italian company, to be some kind of Johnny come lately company, putting out low quality work, and it just isn't true. Long before he got into providing super 8 prints, he would provide 16mm to restore or replace either faded or destroyed footage for collectors 16mm collections. One of my friends, provided screenshots from his print of Blues Brothers, comparing the original print and the added footage to complete the print, and there is literally no difference, at least aI can't see it. Honestly, I have no problem with Andec, they provide a good service to collectors, but just because another firm can also provide services as well, I some no reason for the sometimes harsh criticism offered by some.

[Brian Fretwell]

Also remember that many thousands of hours of TV programmes were transferred from video tape to film by pointing a 35mm or 16mm camera at a TV screen (Film telerecording or Kinescope) professionally, Some are being used for Blu Ray releases of those shows.

[Lee Mannering]

I think it's the Reel Image 400ft and Dorun's 200ft.
But perhaps, I'm wrong.

Quite right Robert