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  • THAT WAS CINERAMA coming soon to Super 8

    Coming sometime this year and on Super 8 a celebration of CINERAMA in THAT WAS CINERAMA.
    It will be a rather special import and something of a first I'm guessing. Don't have an idea of price at this stage but I will add it when I hear any news.

  • #2
    Will it be in anamorphic scope, or letterboxed?

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    • #3
      Hi Lee,

      Count me in for a copy! This is excellent. It's such a great film!

      Ken

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      • #4
        I have to ask the question again, has the sound stripe problem been resolved please?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Osi Osgood View Post
          Will it be in anamorphic scope, or letterboxed?
          Osi, I assume Lee will be using a Bluray for his digital source. Only some DVD's supported anamorphic, and Blurays do not support it at all. The image above is from a Bluray and is letterboxed, in this case "smilebox" to simulated the Cinerama curved screen.

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          • #6
            It would be interesting to see this, even if letterboxed. There are parts of "How the West was Won", that I sorely wish I could have seen in actual Cinerama. I'm sure that there are some on here that actually experienced Cinerama!

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            • #7
              Ed nope its going to be imported and very limited. No extra lenses needed.

              Re sound stripe its all good to go as far as I know.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lee Mannering View Post
                Ed nope its going to be imported and very limited. No extra lenses needed.....
                Having run the 16mm Scope version in a school auditorium, I would recommend the Scope version not be used. The join lines in the Scope version were horribly obvious, and the Scope image cut off the left and right sides of the image to fit it into the Scope aspect ratio. The Scope version of the restored version looks far superior, but I prefer the restored Smilebox version.

                We can now report that we have repaired all the damaged areas in “Grimm,” including compositing and aligning the 3 panels which now look quite stunning. For those who are very familiar with the 35mm CinemaScope version that has appeared on Turner Classic Movies, this restoration will appear like a completely different film as if it was shot yesterday.
                - Dave Strohmaier, 2021
                Comparison "The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm" CinemaScope to restored Cinerama

                Osi, As far as I know, the only place to see Cinerama now is Bradford National Media and Science Museum in the UK. The Arclight and Seattle Cinerama theaters are now closed. IMAX comes close to the Cinerama experience but still falls short. The Super Panavision 70 films made for Cinerama were very close to the original 3 camera system. I first saw 2001 a Space Odyssey on the Cinerama screen. It was literally a life changing experience.

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                • #9
                  Unfortunately when a watched the Super Panavision 70 2001 at the BFI Imax it looked too dark compared to my original viewing at the Casino Cinerama in the 1960's.

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                  • #10
                    I have never heard of a film called “That was Cinerama”. Is this just a mis-spelling of “This is Cinerama” (1952), which should be quite pricy on Super 8 as it runs for nearly two hours? Is it some kind of excerpt from the feature or a short of its own?
                    And: As I suppose that most people who collect "reel film" these days own an anamorphic lens: Why won't this be released in scope, but letterboxed?

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                    • #11
                      This should be a great print!!!!!!...Compliments!!

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                      • #12
                        I was just thinking, how amazing 3 single films would be, which You need to screen with 3 projectors to re-create the original Cinerama-glory…!

                        But this „That Was/Is Cinerama“-release is a very good idea!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oliver Feld View Post
                          I was just thinking, how amazing 3 single films would be, which You need to screen with 3 projectors to re-create the original Cinerama-glory…!

                          But this „That Was/Is Cinerama“-release is a very good idea!
                          Aside from the expense to print 2 hours 15 minutes (x 3), you would have to deal with modifying a super 8 projector to show the larger aperture that Cinerama was shot in:
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                          Specifications at a glance - Cinerama ®

                          Process Developer: Fred Waller - Cinerama, Inc.
                          Year of Introduction: 1952

                          NEGATIVE SPECS:
                          Film Gauge: Triple 35mm
                          Direction of travel: Vertical - six perforations - 26 fps / 24 fps for last two features
                          Camera Optics: 3ea. Kodak 27mm wide angle spherical lenses
                          Aperture Dimensions: 3 ea .996" x 1.116"
                          Max Aspect Ratio: 2.59:1

                          PRINT SPECS:
                          Film Gauge: Triple 35mm
                          Direction of travel: Vertical - six perforations - 26 fps / 24 fps for last two features
                          Projector Optics: Spherical - three projectors
                          Aperture Dimensions: .985" x 1.088" nominal
                          Max Aspect Ratio: 2.59:1 (Due to architectural limitations in some theatres, cinematographers were cautioned to protect their composition for a reduced height, yielding around a 2.65:1 ratio. Most theatres could handle the full height image.)
                          Sound Format: Magnetic Seven Track Stereo - L, LC, C, RC, R stage channels and two channel switchable surround that could feed one channel to the left and right walls and the other to the rear or it could feed one channel to the left wall and one to the right wall. Switching was done manually by the Cinerama theatre engineer.
                          Screen Design: 146 degree curve composed of 1,000-2,000 or more, depending on screen size, vertical perforated 3/4" wide strips to prevent cross reflections. The strips overlapped and all faced straight back to the rear of the theatre.​

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                          • #14
                            Also imagine the change-over problems at home with 3 projectors with no long play units.

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                            • #15
                              Was grateful when my lad father was still with us he was able to see Cinerama on BR at home in his 90s.
                              When That was Cinerama happens short I'll be thinking of my Dad.
                              ​​​​​​​It's in a line of releases but will happen eventually.



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