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  • The "Baby On The Lawn" Brigade

    For many years now, I have been a big fan of Car Boot sales (as we call them in the UK) and, of course, charity shops in the hope of finding that "special" item worth a fortune. I have had some pretty good finds. Mostly, though, I am on the lookout for vinyl, cd's and dvd's but always keep my eyes open for any movie film on offer, which is as rare as hens teeth.
    Anyway, last weekend my chicken grew a set of teeth and, hey presto! I found 4x 200' spools of someone's home movies from the 1970's. Being film, I could not refuse the price if £1 per reel, hoping the footage might be of interest if it was filmed in a town somewhere, similar to a lot that are shown on The Footage Detectives on TPTV in the UK.

    Alas, no. Possibly a few shots of some horse trials that might just have been shot at Burghley which I shall have to investigate.

    The rest was a holiday in Ibiza, Scotland (in the highlands) and various other stuff.

    Basically, it was junk. Filmed by someone who had absolutely not the first clue on how to use a cine camera. 360 degree sweeps.... and back again. Jump cuts, unsteady camera (I know it is difficult holding a camera steady without a tripod, but we don't have force 8 earthquakes in this part of the world), filming a subject for two seconds then sweeping the camera somewhere else to find if anything else is going on........ oh,no there wasn't, so back to the original action......nice long shots of inanimate objects.......... and the biggest crime of all......Hey! My camera has got a ZOOM lens !

    I'm sure the above brings back many dark memories of having to sit and watch your neighbours' holiday home movies 'coz they know you are into cine. Indeed, the above description could have described ones you have watched!!

    This got me wondering. These 1970's snapshot brigade/baby on the lawn people had been brought up watching both quality films and, particularly television which in those days had more static and far less panning shots than the sophisticated techniques of today. So what possessed them, camera in hand, to then go ahead and make such bloody awful movies with these fundamental flaws ? Did they not pick up or learn ANYTHING from the moving pictures that had been thrust upon them?

    Ladies and Gentlemen......... the floor is yours!

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    I had a similar experience with a local thrift shop, that had 4X400ft reels of home movie footage, about half of which was horse shows, but the other half were trips abroad, some of it in downtown London and a whole bevy of it being in Italy, as this photographer seemed to be visiting all the main "ruins". Fortunately for me, this fellow really knew how to shoot super 8. It's a wonderful travelogue! Thanks for the post, Melvin!

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    • #3
      Melvin,

      I guess they never read any of the "How To Make Better Home Movies" guide books that the camera companies put out.

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      • #4
        I remember seeing an amateur film competition entry on this particular topic at one of the I. A.C. shows. It was made by one of the amateur cine clubs. It was hilarious. Nothing has changed. In fact it is worse these days as all this rubbish is being stored on “servers” and contributing to the climate change as the servers use tremendous amounts of electricity and water to keep them cool. Most are unlikely to be viewed more than once. At least cine film can be recycled.😏

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        • #5
          People don't change much. In any subject, there will be a small percentage of peole who will want to do something as properly as they can manage. The rest want to do it as cheaply and easily as they can with it mostly done for them. Now that we have AI people won't want to use their own brain for anything.

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          • #6
            I think its a shame that baby on the lawn home movies land up in boot sale, those films should be retained by their family not sold of. I tell folk all the time at the Heritage Park do not bring your films here, keep them, transfer to digital by all means but always keep them stored in a cool dry place and they will last forever especially if its shot on Kodachrome. Those baby on the lawn films were the backbone of the 8mm industry, without them we wouldn't have what we have today. When it comes to bad camera work, well I have seen some pretty bad video tapes. One comes to mind, and that was the school camp the kids went on. The teacher shot some video, when they got back I asked could I see it?. Well my better half had already seen the tape and told me its pretty bad, I replied it cant be that bad? I was wrong. The teacher had used the camera to pan from one tent to the other stopping at each tent for only a couple of seconds before wizzing of to the next one. I had to stop watching this video as I was getting dizzy. Oh has anyone here watched the "Blair Witch Project" we ran a 35mm print of that one, talk about shaky camera work you really need to take motion sickness tablets to watch that one, its really bad.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Graham Ritchie View Post
              Those baby on the lawn films were the backbone of the 8mm industry, without them we wouldn't have what we have today. When it comes to bad camera work, well I have seen some pretty bad video tapes. (
              The difference is that between film and video, Baby on the Lawn went from 3 minutes 20 seconds to 3 hours 20 minutes !

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              • #8
                I search a lot of old amatuer film for interesting places/events which have long since changed. So in addition to the baby on the lawn...ladies and gentlemen I give you the zoo trip...and the interior wedding reception with inadequate lighting! Mind you, the original filmaker paid for the film, and doesn't really owe me anything, so it is all just part of what makes an exciting find all the more exciting (e.g., in-car POV running through a town in the 1930s-1960s etc)

                I think it interesting the way you can tell so much about the filmaker and their style from the first reel...and whether you are likely to find something interesting or not. Was the camera or lens expensive, are they a people or places person, can they spot action, and build a shot? Do they splice etc etc. I think it has been mentioned already here, but for me the short shot is the most frustrating. Two seconds of whatever catches the eye doesn't really work in terms of editing together an historical bit of footage.

                Yes, it is very sad when amatuer film can end up lost from its family. Even when I have had some clues, I have never managed to trace the descendants of a film collection. Also very sad is the way you sometimes see a whole life that has passed. From the first films after marraige to the last with grand kids in the back garden. You know which was probably the last ever holiday and which was the parting of ways (for example wife filming husband leaving South Africa for England for cancer treatment never to meet again). It is this pathos that I fear most about looking for historical footage in old amatuer film.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ozzie Williams View Post
                  Yes, it is very sad when amatuer film can end up lost from its family. Even when I have had some clues, I have never managed to trace the descendants of a film collection. Also very sad is the way you sometimes see a whole life that has passed. From the first films after marraige to the last with grand kids in the back garden. You know which was probably the last ever holiday and which was the parting of ways (for example wife filming husband leaving South Africa for England for cancer treatment never to meet again). It is this pathos that I fear most about looking for historical footage in old amatuer film.

                  Ozzie, that is beautifully put and what makes our hobby so worthwhile. It is up to us to preserve the good stuff, even though we have to digest a hell of a lot of garbage to find a gem. But it is worth it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Melvin England View Post
                    Ozzie, that is beautifully put and what makes our hobby so worthwhile. It is up to us to preserve the good stuff, even though we have to digest a hell of a lot of garbage to find a gem. But it is worth it.
                    Yes, Ozzie's comments hit the mark!

                    I still recall going the a thrift shop looking for a picture frame. They were so many picture frames that still had old family photos of people long gone. You wonder what the backstory is. I never bought the picture frame. The idea of me discarding a once cherished picture was disconcerting.

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Came across this really nice short film on Vimeo not sure of the make of camera or projector shown, any ideas? hope this link works


                        Nope does not look like its going to work, the name of the film is "Cochi" and its from mexico if you want to check it out its well worth it. It shows the importance of family home movies, I though this short was well done
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