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Could anyone PM me, who has the email, phone number or even website info for that Italian ( is it Italian?) Company that can do one off printings, up to 200ft from what I have heard? I thank you ahead of time.
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Were you talking about https://www.filmferrania.com/Originally posted by Osi Osgood View PostComment
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Film Ferrania is the only Italain company I know of that does film. They used to do a couple of Kodak stocks under their label. I think the problem was their deal feel apart for their own branded stock. Lomography seems to have taken over the most of their stocks that they were getting which was 100 (Gold), 400 (Kodacolor) and 800 (no one is sure but we think is Ultramax).Originally posted by Osi Osgood View Post
I am aware that Ferrania could get some stock from Kodak in the past. Usually in America (from my understanding), it was wholesaled by the Film Photography Project who would handle their stock. Maybe you can ask (I think it's Mike?) over at FPP whether he knows anything. I know they get custom printed 8mm and double 8 stock, I don't know where they get their stock from though, their website is https://filmphotographyproject.com/ Maybe you can ask them who is perfing 16mm stock for double 8 and reperforating 8mm stock for single 8 (or straight 8) whatever you want to call it​ for them.
Mike is a really friendly guy. If you send him an email I'm sure he'll be willing to help. It's definitely not Kodak directly that is doing straight 8 or double 8. Kodak doesn't even (officially) sell straight 8 themselves or anything other than Super 8. The market for 8mm Kodak is gone except for Super 8. I am aware they sell to other people like Film Ferrania or at least have done in the past... so it may be them that are doing it?
The only other company I know of that is still producing straight 8 film is Fomapan... but that's only black and white. Although Foma 100 is a really nice stock, all be it that its a bit thin and scratches really easy in development.
Maybe Kodak is selling these companies either perforated or unperforated film? It would not surprise me, I just don't know the ins and outs of it. I just know Kodak no longer sells straight 8 under its own brand name. Neither does Fuji by the way either. There is some Eterna that still floats around... But it's mostly Kodak still doing Super 8, 16mm and 35mm stocks.Last edited by Orestes Roumeliotis; April 06, 2023, 07:07 PM.Comment
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Super 8mm positive print stock has to be perforated/slitted from larger gauges, Wittner offer this service I believe. It's one of the many obstacles of providing s8 in this day and age besides mag striping (16mm is still available to order from Kodak).Comment
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That sounds about right, but seems like a waste of a lot of film to get to that point if that's the case for what they're doing for straight 8 and Double 8. I know for a fact that Kodak no longer sells 8mm (other than Super 8), although they do sell 16 and 35mm so it's quite possible they're reloading it. Although given that it has to be done in the dark as there is no backing on 8mm film (of any kind) it seems like such a huge amount of effort to achieve that.Originally posted by Lee McCaffrey View Post
And for the end user if you were just interested in shooting 8mm film, it seems like a waste of time really... Apart from the limitation of getting about 2:30 worth of film at 24fps, and therefore having to think about what you want to shoot first, every professional film stock is now available on Super 8, not to mention the Beaulieu​, Nizo and Leicina cameras and of course Canon, Nikon, Minolta, and Elmo.
Other 8mm formats seem like a waste of time, it's just a shame they don't sell 200ft cartridges for Super 8 anymore. That would be where it's really at, but not every camera shoots that. My Elmo can, but I digress.Comment
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I wonder if the can get 16mm unperforated from Kodak, that would make sense and save Kodak the trouble of perforating itg. But then when did Kodak make sense recently.Comment
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In case I wasn't entirely clear, I want to get printed one or two 200ft reels of movie trailers, which I had previously tried to generate support for making a negative and release, but no bites. I still would like to make a 200ft super 8 reel of these 1970's fantasy trailers, which still have spot on color. Even just having a "one off" of these trailers would be awesome.Comment
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OK I get what you want to achieve now. You will need to get someone to copy it onto a 16mm reel most likely. There is no duplicating films anymore for 8mm other than Tri X and I doubt you want your film duplicated in black and white.Originally posted by Osi Osgood View Post
Another way to do it would be to get it copied to digital. Somewhere like Film Rescue should be able to copy it for you.Comment
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It is possible in Italy but, for some reasons, it's better not to give any details on Internet. I believe Ossi is refering to this Italian service.Originally posted by Orestes Roumeliotis View PostComment
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Orestes, you may be interested to know that Andec produce super 8mm positive prints for projection, either from a 16mm (reduction) or super 8mm (contact) negative. There is also a service in Italy that can take a digital video file and print it directly to film. They are both using positive print stock that is obtained by perforating and slitting the commercially available 35mm stock. So while it is true that Kodak do not make a dedicated super 8mm positive print film, it is obtainable by other means.Comment
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I'm not aware of every other company that is reusing other film stocks (but neither is anyone else) what I said is true in the sense that the only duplicating film left for 8mm natively is Tri-X. There is a Kodak duplicating film which has an ISO of 1.6 (which has its only real possible purpose for duplicating) although some people load it into their stills cameras for whatever purpose that is. I believe the stock they will be using is Kodak Vision 3 2254 which is generally used to make duplicates of movies shot on reels in Hollywood movies.Originally posted by Lee McCaffrey View Post
There was also a low ISO duplicating version of Ektachrome with an ISO of about 6 designed purely for duplicating, I don't know if they still make it.
You can see its technical summary from Kodak Vision 3 2254 here:
https://www.kodak.com/content/produc...4-brochure.pdf
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Be a lot cheaper to watch trailers for free on youtube
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Alan , why do constantly make comments to posts on this forum that criticize film ? After all , this IS a film forum .Comment
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Alan its more fun to watch trailers on Super 8 even better on 35mm
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