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Disclaimer:. This is this collectors opinion. So, I was using my brand new headphones, trying them out on my Eumig 926 stereo. I listened to my new Jurassic Park and JAWS digests, both in stereo. I noticed right away, that there was a constant "garbled" sound off and on, to both left and right track. Now, stereo on super 8 has always been "iffy" at best, with more than it's fair share of hiss, but this garbled sound was just intolerable. I really have not noticed it as much listening to it through regular speakers. Curiously, when I turned the projector to "mono", that garbled sound was highly diminished and sounded better. To test my theory, I put it on one of my other stereo projectors, and the same sound issues. I think a good part of the problem is that by having two separate track, the double the "garbled". Please note, this is no reflection on Adam Dierling, who is really good with his hi-fidelity recordings. In my opinion, he does his absolute best with what he is given. Your thoughts, folks?
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Osi,
I guess if there was an issue with both tracks, playing back in stereo would highlight it more. I've never minded mono prints, but a true stereo mix can add so much to home projection. I don't have the 600' Jaws digest, however in reading your review from a couple of years ago, you mentioned that the soundtrack was sharp and clear, and also "The stereo is the amongst the best that I have heard on super 8." What do you think has changed? -
The hi-fidelity hasn't changed on it, it's just as sharp, but I hear these imperfections on the track much clearer with these new headphones. It's not an issue with the soundtrack, or the recording machine, it's the stripe.Comment
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I have to say that I have a few stereo titles, from the Derann days and I always play then flat 1+2, because I favour clarity over a weak stereo effect.Comment
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Some time back I picked up a 400' digest copy of the original Casino Royale that was produced by Piccolo films for distribution by Eumig. There is no marking on the packaging to say so, but this is in stereo. Not only that but the best stereo I have ever heard on super 8.
The stereo separation is amazing, I only discovered this when I saw both of the vu meters going crazy on my 708-EL.
I don't know if this was especially mixed for Eumig to be used as a demo reel, but it demonstrates just how much information can be put down on that tiny balance stripe with so much clarity.
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I'd say it's a matter of the configuration of the speakers. I have my two front speakers immediately next to the screen edges, maybe 10 feet apart. My mixer has two columns of LEDs showing the right/left signal strength and I can often see all sorts of channel separation between the two columns. In my ears? Not so impressive!
I think I could hear it a lot better through headphones or if I had speakers at the right and left edges of the room.Comment
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I always use Dolby Prologic with five channel sound, plus subwoofer if the print is mono dialogue comes from center channel and bass from left and right with no rear surround there will be subwoofer providing it was used on the original motion picture production
Dolby stereo with five channels surround sound is usually beautiful, but I am pushing 250 W per channel with dedicated power amps for the channels. I am also using the GS 1200 projectors recently serviced.
I sometimes detect imperfections in the sound, but that would also depend on the quality of the recording and the type of magnetic stripes, old-fashioned, brown or liquid paste charcoal gray
I don't have any complaints at my house not from me, or any of my guests
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It could well just come down to, sadly, the quality of the modern stripe. Hey, the very fact that we even have striped super 8 today, is nearly a miracle, but the stripe of the past most definitely did not have the issues that today's stripe does. Now, interestingly, I have a recent feature print of "Raiders", single striped mono, recorded by the brilliant Adam, and the sound is absolutely great. There are so many "bumps" to the modern mag stripe though, I dare not turn up the bass. One thing that does help a bit is using my early to mid 80's Realistic brand Dolby surround sound processor, which allows you to take a mono track and simulate stereo, and it works quite well.Comment
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I think some of you should look at the power of your receivers in terms of watts per channel and those of you who can afford it should upgrade this allows you to keep sound at a lower level, but have yet stunning quality sound, assuming your speakers can handle the task and also you have Dolby tone, test signals and the like are properly calibrated. I am referring to the three or four second long hiss, test that travels around the speakers in your room. As long as you have the mode set to do it. During this time, you adjust levels of the individual channels to your liking. Don't forget to stand in the middle of the room, listening to the three channels across the front and the two channels across the rear as they hiss. This allows you to get the proper sound effect completely around your screening area.
and I would suggest minimum 150 W per channel and stronger for your upgradeComment
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