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  • Rare 22mm film

    Edison 22mm film 'Jack and the Beanstalk', from the end of the Victorian Era (1902), Home Kinematograph,
    advertised on Spain ebay.

    https://www.ebay.es/itm/204778240662...sAAOSwJDtmN8lz

  • #2
    Very rare indeed. It ought to be in a museum. We’re they on nitrate stock.?

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    • #3
      I can't be absolutely sure, but I do have a very good knowledge of the animated film, and the animated film was not around in 1902. "Humorous Phases of a Funny Face" wouldn't come out until 1905, largely credited as the first animated film, cartoon, stop motion or otherwise, so I would guess this film to be from approximately 1915 to the end of the silent era.

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      • #4
        I have just researched it and the film was on diacetate stock so not inflammable like the 35mm films. Also it was a commercial failure and only lasted a few years. Osi, if you look closely at the image you will see that it is a human dressed up so not animated. The projector mechanism ran the film forwards , moved the film sideways, then backwards. And a second sideways movement and then forwards again. It also protected slides. I wonder if any still exist today.

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        • #5
          JACK AND THE BEANSTALK, mentioned above, seems to be the Edison film from 1902, which can be viewed on the internet...
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_a...lk_(1902_film)

          The same seller also lists this film: THE DREAM FAIRY (1913)...
          https://www.ebay.com/itm/204777138621

          And a seller in the US has recently listed this Kinetoscope title: BUMPTIOUS AS AN AVIATOR (1910), which went for USD325...
          https://www.ebay.com/itm/296397144621

          ​So there are films out there. They are quite rare, but all too expensive.

          But there are probably not too many functioning projectors. I think a collector I know might have one, but need to check with him.

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          • #6
            I stand corrected. It looked like animation.😃

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            • #7
              That 22mm format defies the time tested engineering rule of Keep it simple! No surprise that it was a total failure.

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              • #8
                There is, unfortunately, no version in English (but you can, now more easily translate a web page, than before) of that interesting list of gauges. Among them, many I never heard of : https://www.cinecameras.fr/le-film-et-ses-formats/

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                • #9
                  All those different aperture sizes of 35mm film particularly after CinemaScope were a nightmare for projectionists, having to alter the gate apertures, screen masking and possibly the lenses for every performance, as not all the films on the programme would have the same ratio. I highly skilled job which was very underrated regarding pay yet everyone I ever met loved it. I also discovered that many of them were married to usherettes!

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