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    This film, Dr. Zhivago, was always a favourite of my mother's even though she wasn't a real film goer in my childhood. The only other two films she ever insisted on going to see because she wanted to was My Fair Lady and, in total contrast, the film version of All Creatures Great and Small which I also saw and have the 600'er on super 8. She did take me to see things occasionally as a child growing up in the 60's and early 70's. Mostly Disney and that type of thing. She even did something even rarer than going to the cinema to see a film SHE wanted to see....... she bought a vinyl single...... the soundtrack theme to the film! She definitely had a crush on Omar Sharif which I think was the main reason for seeing it. Strange, but I cannot remember her ever getting particularly enthusiastic over Lawrence of Arabia (that was my dad.... but NOTHING to do with Omar Sharif I can assure you)!
    I was always told that it was a really long film, which it is, and that there was no point watching it as I would not understand it, being an adult film.
    As a child and teenager, I carried this notion in my head for many many years. One could call it a brainwashed, I suppose. But, hey ho, eventually the big day arrived when there was a huge announcement that it was going to be given its television premier. I think it must have been BBC 2 one Christmas years before Sky, Netflicks and Pay TV don't forget.
    My mind was made up. I was going to watch this thing come hell or high water to decide for myself what it was like. So I did, even though it was on a "huge" (in those days) 25inch TV. Don't forget, it was academy ratio pan and scan at best in those days. They wouldn't have dared broadcast with huge black bars at the top and bottom as there would have been an outcry. I don't think the general public had been educated in those days about screen ratio's.
    So, I sat down to watch. Oh my goodness......how annoying! How frustrating mum and dad DID know what they were talking about after all! How boring! What a yawn! I just couldn't understand it at all, so after about 45 minutes lost interest and did something else.

    Fast forward 35 years or so. Somewhere along the line the dvd fell into my hands and straight onto the shelf to be watched (maybe) at some point in the future.

    Fast forward a few years later. Ebay. For Sale 3x 400' super 8 Dr. Zhivago. I put in a reasonable offer and surprise, surprise, I won !
    On viewing it, it seemed slightly more interesting than I remember as a youngster. The story didn't quite make sense but realizing that it was a very heavy edit from the full length, I had to make allowances for that. Watched it several times. It only became luke warm at best.

    Fast forward to six months ago. Ebay. For sale 3x 400' super 8 Dr. Zhivago - Cinemascope! Being always on the lookout for scope super 8, I put my bid in and lo and behold, I won it again ! Even though the edit was exactly the same as the earlier flat version, this cinemascope version showed the image in its true glory and actually made it a greater pleasure to watch, which it was, several times over, and the storyline fell a little bit more into place.... but not quite as much as I would have liked. Still good to see on super 8, though.

    Fast forward to this morning. Saturday. Pouring with rain. Not too much to do. Time to take the bull by the horns and finally see this film in its entirety on dvd so I can form an adult judgement on it once and for all. After all, I have not seen a bad David Lean film.

    Here I am 3.5 hours later.

    Verdict? A really good film! Definitely worth watching. Virtually everything fell into place, made sense and was very entertaining. Beautifully photographed, too. Time very well spent. I will certainly watch it again in the not too distant future as I know I always do miss little bits or subtle remarks, nuances etc on first viewing. Schindlers List is a prime example for me.

    I think my journey through time with this film throws up a couple of facts. Firstly, as one matures, one sees things from a different angle and opinion can change. Secondly...... the one that all parents know......and their kids don't........and that is that mums and dads are always right! Mine will be looking down now thinking "I told you so !"

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  • #2
    I had a similar experience with the Atonement (2007). In general I have a "rule" that if I don't find a film interesting after 30 minutes of watching, it is time to find something else to watch. After 30 minutes of Atonement I was bored. Fortunately I was in my home cinema room, with company, so how could I turn off a highly rated film, even if it was a complete bore. That 30 minutes of boredom turned out to be a carefully constructed setup for the remaining hour and a half of brilliant cinema. If I had be watching this movie alone, on a TV in the living room I would have missed a great film.

    Movies are best viewed in a dark room, on a big screen, with an appreciative audience. If you can't do that, at least watch on a large screen via a projector in dark room.

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    • #3
      I actually got to see this in 70mm, many years back, and I still remember to this day the colour and grandeur of the 70mm print, the story and acting wasn't too bad either! Wow that was an evening out!

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      • #4
        I was about 13 or 14 years old when I first watched Dr Zhivago at the cinema when it first came out. It was a film that stuck in my mind, after watching it, I saved up and bought the soundtrack I think it was the theme on 45rpm ​ cant exactly remember as it was long ago., in saying that it must have been one of the first soundtracks I ever bought. Jump forward a million years to 2011, where we ran four of David Lean's films. One title a week, all on 35mm. the print of Dr Zhivago looked good. Young Chris our part time projectionist ran that one upstairs, while I came in on my days off to watch it on the big screen. My thinking then, that this would be the last time I would get the chance to watch it on actual film.

        Many moons ago a cinema in town did run a re-release 35mm print of Lawrence of Arabia, now my son Steven was about 10 or 11 and I remember thinking that there was no way he is going to sit through that, but he did, amazing, and to this day remembers watching it with me at the cinema in town one Sunday morning. Adults should never underestimate children what they are capable of, what they watch, and take it in.

        "Lawrence Of Arabia" when it arrived, quite a job checking the print and loading it onto the platter, it all worked out well using the platter, plus we included intermissions, a must for any David Lean film.

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        • #5
          I recently bought a low fade super 8 sound "making of" short for Dr Zhivago, running approximately 8 and a half minutes. Really well made

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          • #6
            I've got the full feature on super eight sound Cinemascope it's a brilliant film no doubt about it.

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            • #7
              Due to this thread I pulled out my full length print and enjoyed it once again. Sadly though I am quite sure I spotted color shifting. While the color looks good last night, I could see circles in the middle of the picture filling the frame that was a shade of pink. Most obvious during darker scenes. They were coming and going throughout the print.

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              • #8
                Chip - I am very impressed.

                Does this qualify me as an official "Super 8 Influencer ?"

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                • #9
                  Chip, could that be a film lab default? Usually color fade effects the full frame.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Melvin England View Post
                    Chip - I am very impressed.

                    Does this qualify me as an official "Super 8 Influencer ?"
                    Melvin

                    hop on a plane come over I'll run it for you!

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                    • #11
                      Chip - Pity we don't live in a technological era where we really could "Beam me up, Scottie," and be back home before the day is over. Otherwise.......... !

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                      • #12
                        Melvin

                        https://youtu.be/etY7kbRRQ_c?si=yLa6yP-ww14K7DQz

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                        • #13
                          The complete Doctor Zhivago on Super 8 is my Holy Grail. I have the faded/red 3 x 400ft edit in Scope but if a UK collector might be willing to sell the full-feature, I'd love to own it for my home cinema viewing. I love all David Lean's films but Doctor Zhivago is my absolute favourite!

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                          • #14
                            I showed Doctor Zhivago on 35mm when i was still a cinema projectionist .
                            I remember there being only two performances a day , one in the afternoon and one in the evening , due to their running times complete with Intermission and Play in / play out music .
                            Real presentation in those days . Screen masking , tabs and proper coloured lighting and none of those bloody long play platters in those days . Carbon rod arc lighting and reel to reel changeovers in a proper cinema . Unlike today's shoebox , bland , boring multiplex monstrosities .
                            I first saw Doctor Zhivago in 70mm on it's first release and it's still one of my favourite films .
                            I now have the complete feature on Super 8mm / Scope . Also the 3 x 400 foot / scope edit and the 400' flat edition .
                            Also a good transfer on Blu Ray disc alongside a Laserdisc boxset and gatefold sleeve edition.
                            I also have the soundtrack on LP records , Stereo (7 1/2 ips) and Mono( 3 3/4 ips ) reel to reel tape , and Compact Disc editions .
                            I think i like this film .

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